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📈 Startup mass extinction event in late 2023 and 2024

Latent startup mortality built up through ZIRP - companies that should have died from failing to raise instead kept raising - and it all comes due when the 2021 cash runs out. 50-60% of the 2019-2022 venture cohort dies in the second half of 2023 and into 2024, with down rounds, recaps and wipeouts the norm rather than the exception, because most of these companies are already worth less than their own preference stack.

0 CONVICTION
peaked 91.1 GREEN
EMBER
band
▼ SHORT IPO
expression · bearish equities
MISS
outcome · R -61.7% · α -112.7%
2025-02-04
window closed
⚠ CONFLICTING IDEAS ON THE SAME TICKER — the board is arguing with itself; net it before trading (ticker view →)
ARKK · It's 1997-98, not 1999 — the melt-up has years left LONG GREEN 67.3 ← stronger than this idea (34.5)
IPO · 2026 is the year of mega-IPOs LONG DORMANT 6.3

⚖ Why this verdict

fully deterministic — evaluate.py replays this from daily closes; nothing below is editable or hand-set

  1. Window: 2023-02-04 → 2025-02-04 — first mention + 24-month horizon, then the window locks.
  2. The call: ▼ SHORT IPO (primary play). IPO rose 61.7% over the window → direction-adjusted R = -61.7% (the call lost money).
  3. Benchmark: holding SPY over the same window returned +51.0%α = -61.7 − (+51.0) = -112.7% — what this call made or lost against just owning the index. This is the number the verdict uses.
    Stock-selection read: -10.7% — did IPO move the predicted way relative to the market. The two only differ on a SHORT: this call was right about direction relative to the index but still cost money versus holding it.
  4. Rule fired:
    · HIT — R ≥ +10% AND α ≥ +5
    · PARTIAL — R ≥ +5% OR α ≥ 0
    ▶ MISS — everything else
  5. Credit: supporters of a MISS earn 0 each, opposers the inverse — this feeds the scoreboard weights. supported: Brad Gerstner, Chamath, Friedberg, Jason, Sacks

Conviction timeline

bands: green ≥ 65 · watch ≥ 45 · ember ≥ 15

Plays vs SPY · % since first mention (2023-02-04)

Plays

expressionsymbolkindrelevancerationale
▼ SHORT IPOetf PRIMARY Renaissance IPO ETF - the listed proxy for the recent venture-backed cohort whose mortality is being predicted
▼ SHORT ARKKetf adjacent unprofitable long-duration growth; the liquid analogue of the private companies being culled

Mention log

Chamath
Chamath equities w=0.84 · n=160 · E114 (2023-02-04) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 35:05 SUPPORT
“We have to go back to the historic statistical average, which means that a 50 to 60 percent mortality rate seems pretty reasonable. By the way, in the dot-com bubble, that's what we went through. In 2001 to 2005, we had a 50 percent mortality rate.”
Friedberg
Friedberg equities w=0.87 · n=120 · E114 (2023-02-04) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 36:09 SUPPORT
“Now the problem is that so many of these series B, C, D and E companies have a true market value. They're not a valueless company, but the true market value of them is probably less than the total preference stack of the capital that's gone in. So they're worthless.”
Sacks
Sacks equities w=0.89 · n=96 · E114 (2023-02-04) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 54:12 SUPPORT
“I actually think this tweet storm is basically correct is, you know, I've referred to on this show before that I think one of the things that built up during this bubble is latent startup mortality. So many startups that should have died from not being able to raise the next round lived because they're able to raise money.”
Jason
Jason equities w=0.97 · n=105 · E114 (2023-02-04) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 56:15 SUPPORT
“I'm also starting to see really gnarly term sheets, people foreclosing on businesses, people offering like literally had a term sheet come in, like we're going to forgive the last note and take this business over for a dollar and everybody gets wiped out.”
Sacks
Sacks equities w=0.89 · n=96 · E120 (2023-03-17) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 58:33 SUPPORT
“I mean, it is going to be a hard period with a lot of resets, a lot of restructuring, a lot of cap tables. There's a lot of mess to clean up.”
Friedberg
Friedberg equities w=0.87 · n=120 · E125 (2023-04-21) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 45:20 SUPPORT
“so many of those companies have a valuation that's less than their preference stack. And as a result, those founders that work there and those employees that are there are getting their equity wiped out. They'll have to get restructured.”
Sacks
Sacks equities w=0.89 · n=96 · E125 (2023-04-21) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 1:00:28 SUPPORT
“But if you're a series C stage startup, you're a late stage startup with a, it's called a pre-AI model, the spigot has just turned off completely.”
Chamath
Chamath equities w=0.84 · n=160 · E125 (2023-04-21) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 1:03:05 SUPPORT
“What is their incentive to really mark their book down 50%? They don't have an incentive. Why would they do that? They would rather let it decay down naturally.”
Jason
Jason equities w=0.97 · n=105 · E125 (2023-04-21) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 1:06:51 SUPPORT
“A bunch of this tiger stuff got released. I mean, their funds are underwater, just like Masi Yoshisan's fund is underwater.”
Friedberg
Friedberg equities w=0.87 · n=120 · E126 (2023-04-28) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 40:11 SUPPORT
“And we've talked a lot about the statistic that I've shared a bunch publicly on how 70 percent of publicly traded companies that have gone public since 2020 are trading below their total cash invested since founding, which should translate to an estimate that call it somewhere in the order of 70 percent of private companies are probably worth less than their preference stack.”
Chamath
Chamath equities w=0.84 · n=160 · E130 (2023-05-26) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 1:10:35 SUPPORT
“And so the question there is, how many of those companies are just going to stop spending because they're just not going to exist?”
Friedberg
Friedberg equities w=0.87 · n=120 · E130 (2023-05-26) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 1:18:51 SUPPORT
“There's a lot of failure going on in Silicon Valley right now. You know, Sacks, you talk a little bit about having paths for exit and options for SaaS companies. But there are many sectors in startup land that don't have those sorts of options in biotech, in SYNBIO, in FinTech, in direct-to-consumer, e-commerce.”
Sacks
Sacks equities w=0.89 · n=96 · E130 (2023-05-26) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 1:32:09 SUPPORT
“The money is being sucked out of the system like the tide before a tsunami. And the tsunami is going to be all the failures and bankruptcies.”
Brad Gerstner
Brad Gerstner (regular guest ×1.0) equities w=0.95 · n=22 · E134 (2023-06-24) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 1:11:48 SUPPORT
“There are 1,400 unicorns at the end of 2022, and 100% of them will likely do a down run. And if you said, what is the average that they're going to be down, it's over 50%.”
Sacks
Sacks equities w=0.89 · n=96 · E135 (2023-07-01) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 1:23:03 SUPPORT · horizon 18mo
“It's only going to get worse over the next 18 months.”
Chamath
Chamath equities w=0.84 · n=160 · E135 (2023-07-01) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 1:23:26 SUPPORT
“I think 60% go to zero.”
Sacks
Sacks equities w=0.89 · n=96 · E139 (2023-07-27) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 23:32 SUPPORT
“But now we're in a situation in which we're going through two years of intense turmoil and a lot of companies aren't gonna make it. A lot of companies are restructuring. A lot of companies are gonna take down rounds”
Sacks
Sacks equities w=0.89 · n=96 · E141 (2023-08-11) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 30:41 SUPPORT · horizon 24mo
“I think there's going to be a one to two year period of distress for all these companies that raised in the peak, 2020, 2021, and are now running out of money and they don't have enough revenue, they're not growing fast enough, and or their burn is too high, and all those companies are going to be facing down rounds or restructurings or they're not going to be able to raise.”
Brad Gerstner
Brad Gerstner (regular guest ×1.0) equities w=0.95 · n=22 · E141 (2023-08-11) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 32:56 SUPPORT
“Remember, we had 1,000 unicorns at the end of 2021 And I've said 100% of those are going to do a down round. And we're still in the early stages of that reset to occur.”
Sacks
Sacks equities w=0.89 · n=96 · E143 (2023-08-25) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 50:34 SUPPORT
“And I can tell you like most startups in startup world right now are in the danger zone... if you're a startup with sub one million of ARR and you're in the danger zone, you're probably just gonna have to pack it in”
Chamath
Chamath equities w=0.84 · n=160 · E146 (2023-09-22) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 1:10:29 SUPPORT
“New options are issued and a round is done at a significant discount. And there's a huge recap and a pay to play and all this other sort of stuff starts to play out that the original founders in the company get wiped out. ... I think that's the scary scenario that's likely going to play out”
Sacks
Sacks equities w=0.89 · n=96 · E151 (2023-10-27) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 47:43 SUPPORT · horizon 18mo
“This is the bubble of 2021 working its way through the system ... So I think you're going to see this dynamic for the next 18 months or so. But this is not a new dynamic. This is the lagging indicator of what we've been talking about since the regime change of the first half of 2022”
Jason
Jason equities w=0.97 · n=105 · E151 (2023-10-27) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 49:03 SUPPORT
“I'll just note when a company does shut down, that process typically takes two or three quarters ... anything you're seeing in 2023, that might be a shutdown where the employees were all laid off in late 2022”
Friedberg
Friedberg equities w=0.87 · n=120 · E151 (2023-10-27) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 50:13 SUPPORT
“The one that needs cash continuously and will for a long period of time is really screwed”
Jason
Jason equities w=0.97 · n=105 · E156 (2023-12-08) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 34:54 SUPPORT
“It was a rager, folks. People partied well into the next day, and we're still seeing the cleanup.”
Chamath
Chamath equities w=0.84 · n=160 · E156 (2023-12-08) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 56:53 SUPPORT
“I run into two and three person teams every day that I think are exceptionally talented, who should be inside of a company.”
Friedberg
Friedberg equities w=0.87 · n=120 · E158 (2023-12-23) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 58:01 SUPPORT
“a lot of businesses that raised a lot of capital at a very high valuation, and then you have this multiple compression that's just happened in the last two years, their valuation effectively, if they were to go public today or get sold, is less than the capital they raised. And that's the most extreme scenario where suddenly all the common shareholders get wiped out in terms of their return.”
Sacks
Sacks equities w=0.89 · n=96 · E171 (2024-03-22) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 46:44 SUPPORT
“My take on this is that this was a bailout... This company wasn't going anywhere, and it raised hundreds of millions of dollars.”
Friedberg
Friedberg equities w=0.87 · n=120 · E175 (2024-04-19) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 42:54 SUPPORT
“the general tone here is a deep tech investment is very likely to fail because you spend so much money before you even know... So it's a tough data point for other deep tech companies that need to raise a lot of capital.”

Who built this conviction

each voice's total force on the score — supports and opposes from every mention, weighted exactly as the replay applied them · share = % of all mention-driven movement

Sacks
Sacks w=0.89
10 scoring events · 46% of moves
+62.7 → net +62.7
Friedberg
Friedberg w=0.87
7 scoring events · 21% of moves
+28.6 → net +28.6
Chamath
Chamath w=0.84
6 scoring events · 18% of moves
+24.9 → net +24.9
Jason
Jason w=0.97
4 scoring events · 11% of moves
+15.0 → net +15.0
Brad Gerstner
Brad Gerstner w=0.95 regular guest ×1.0
2 scoring events · 5% of moves
+6.2 → net +6.2

⏳ decay drained -102.9 over the idea's life — that's time passing, attributed to no one

Score events

episodekindΔafternote
E114 2023-02-04 init +37.2 37.2 E114 born by Sacks (explicit_prediction x3) [w=0.89]
E114 2023-02-04 reinforce +14.2 51.4 E114 Chamath support x3 (new voice) [w=0.84]
E114 2023-02-04 reinforce +11.4 62.8 E114 Friedberg support x3 (new voice) [w=0.87]
E114 2023-02-04 reinforce +8.1 70.9 E114 Jason support x2 (new voice) [w=0.97]
E115 2023-02-11 decay -1.4 69.5 E115 silent
E116 2023-02-17 decay -1.4 68.1 E116 silent
E118 2023-03-03 decay -1.4 66.7 E118 silent
E119 2023-03-11 decay -1.3 65.4 E119 silent
E120 2023-03-17 reinforce +4.6 70.0 E120 Sacks support x2 [w=0.89]
E121 2023-03-24 decay -1.4 68.6 E121 silent
E122 2023-03-31 decay -1.4 67.2 E122 silent
E123 2023-04-07 decay -1.3 65.9 E123 silent
E124 2023-04-14 decay -1.3 64.6 E124 silent
E125 2023-04-21 reinforce +5.5 70.1 E125 Friedberg support x3 [w=0.87]
E125 2023-04-21 reinforce +4.8 74.9 E125 Sacks support x3 [w=0.89]
E125 2023-04-21 reinforce +3.8 78.6 E125 Chamath support x3 [w=0.84]
E125 2023-04-21 reinforce +3.1 81.8 E125 Jason support x2 [w=0.97]
E126 2023-04-28 reinforce +2.4 84.1 E126 Friedberg support x2 [w=0.87]
E128 2023-05-12 decay -1.7 82.4 E128 silent
E129 2023-05-19 decay -1.6 80.8 E129 silent
E130 2023-05-26 reinforce +2.4 83.2 E130 Chamath support x2 [w=0.84]
E130 2023-05-26 reinforce +2.6 85.8 E130 Friedberg support x3 [w=0.87]
E130 2023-05-26 reinforce +2.3 88.1 E130 Sacks support x3 [w=0.89]
E131 2023-06-02 decay -1.8 86.3 E131 silent
E132 2023-06-10 decay -1.7 84.6 E132 silent
E133 2023-06-16 decay -1.7 82.9 E133 silent
E134 2023-06-24 reinforce +4.4 87.3 E134 Brad Gerstner support x3 (new voice) [w=0.95]
E135 2023-07-01 reinforce +2.0 89.3 E135 Sacks support x3 [w=0.89]
E135 2023-07-01 reinforce +1.6 90.9 E135 Chamath support x3 [w=0.84]
E136 2023-07-09 decay -1.8 89.1 E136 silent
E137 2023-07-14 decay -1.8 87.3 E137 silent
E139 2023-07-27 reinforce +1.7 89.0 E139 Sacks support x2 [w=0.89]
E140 2023-08-04 decay -1.8 87.2 E140 silent
E141 2023-08-11 reinforce +2.0 89.3 E141 Sacks support x3 [w=0.89]
E141 2023-08-11 reinforce +1.8 91.1 E141 Brad Gerstner support x3 [w=0.95]
E142 2023-08-18 decay -1.8 89.3 E142 silent
E143 2023-08-25 reinforce +1.7 91.0 E143 Sacks support x3 [w=0.89]
E144 2023-09-01 decay -1.8 89.2 E144 silent
E146 2023-09-22 reinforce +1.6 90.8 E146 Chamath support x3 [w=0.84]
E147 2023-09-29 decay -1.8 89.0 E147 silent
E148 2023-10-07 decay -1.8 87.2 E148 silent
E149 2023-10-13 decay -1.7 85.5 E149 silent
E150 2023-10-20 decay -1.7 83.8 E150 silent
E151 2023-10-27 reinforce +2.6 86.4 E151 Sacks support x3 [w=0.89]
E151 2023-10-27 reinforce +2.0 88.3 E151 Jason support x2 [w=0.97]
E151 2023-10-27 reinforce +1.5 89.9 E151 Friedberg support x2 [w=0.87]
E152 2023-11-03 decay -1.8 88.1 E152 silent
E156 2023-12-08 reinforce +1.7 89.8 E156 Jason support x2 [w=0.97]
E156 2023-12-08 reinforce +1.3 91.1 E156 Chamath support x2 [w=0.84]
E157 2023-12-16 decay -1.8 89.3 E157 silent
E158 2023-12-23 reinforce +1.4 90.7 E158 Friedberg support x2 [w=0.87]
E159 2023-12-29 decay -1.8 88.8 E159 silent
E160 2024-01-06 decay -1.8 87.1 E160 silent
E161 2024-01-13 decay -1.7 85.3 E161 silent
E162 2024-01-19 decay -1.7 83.6 E162 silent
E163 2024-01-26 decay -1.7 81.9 E163 silent
E164 2024-02-02 decay -1.6 80.3 E164 silent
E165 2024-02-09 decay -1.6 78.7 E165 silent
E166 2024-02-16 decay -1.6 77.1 E166 silent
E167 2024-02-23 decay -1.5 75.6 E167 silent
E168 2024-03-01 decay -1.5 74.1 E168 silent
E169 2024-03-08 decay -1.5 72.6 E169 silent
E170 2024-03-15 decay -1.5 71.1 E170 silent
E171 2024-03-22 reinforce +3.8 75.0 E171 Sacks support x2 [w=0.89]
E172 2024-03-29 decay -1.5 73.5 E172 silent
E173 2024-04-05 decay -1.5 72.0 E173 silent
E174 2024-04-12 decay -1.4 70.6 E174 silent
E175 2024-04-19 reinforce +3.8 74.4 E175 Friedberg support x2 [w=0.87]
E176 2024-04-26 decay -1.5 72.9 E176 silent
E177 2024-05-03 decay -1.5 71.4 E177 silent
E178 2024-05-10 decay -1.4 70.0 E178 silent
E179 2024-05-17 decay -1.4 68.6 E179 silent
E180 2024-05-24 decay -1.4 67.2 E180 silent
E181 2024-05-31 decay -1.3 65.9 E181 silent
E182 2024-06-07 decay -1.3 64.6 E182 silent
E183 2024-06-14 decay -1.3 63.3 E183 silent
E184 2024-06-20 decay -1.3 62.0 E184 silent
E185 2024-06-29 decay -1.2 60.8 E185 silent
E186 2024-07-04 decay -1.2 59.6 E186 silent
E187 2024-07-12 decay -1.2 58.4 E187 silent
E188 2024-07-19 decay -1.2 57.2 E188 silent
E189 2024-07-26 decay -1.1 56.1 E189 silent
E190 2024-08-02 decay -1.1 54.9 E190 silent
E191 2024-08-09 decay -1.1 53.8 E191 silent
E192 2024-08-16 decay -1.1 52.8 E192 silent
E193 2024-08-23 decay -1.1 51.7 E193 silent
E194 2024-08-30 decay -1.0 50.7 E194 silent
E195 2024-09-06 decay -1.0 49.7 E195 silent
E196 2024-09-20 decay -1.0 48.7 E196 silent
E197 2024-09-27 decay -1.0 47.7 E197 silent
E198 2024-10-03 decay -1.0 46.7 E198 silent
E199 2024-10-11 decay -0.9 45.8 E199 silent
E200 2024-10-18 decay -0.9 44.9 E200 silent
E201 2024-10-25 decay -0.9 44.0 E201 silent
E202 2024-11-01 decay -0.9 43.1 E202 silent
E203 2024-11-08 decay -0.9 42.3 E203 silent
E204 2024-11-16 decay -0.8 41.4 E204 silent
E205 2024-11-23 decay -0.8 40.6 E205 silent
E206 2024-12-07 decay -0.8 39.8 E206 silent
E207 2024-12-13 decay -0.8 39.0 E207 silent
E208 2024-12-20 decay -0.8 38.2 E208 silent
E209 2025-01-04 decay -0.8 37.4 E209 silent
E210 2025-01-11 decay -0.7 36.7 E210 silent
E211 2025-01-18 decay -0.7 35.9 E211 silent
E212 2025-01-25 decay -0.7 35.2 E212 silent
E213 2025-01-31 decay -0.7 34.5 E213 silent