E175

Google fires protestors, NPR chaos, Humane's AI Pin, Startup tax crisis, sports betting scandal

2024-04-19 spoken.md · speaker-labeled ▶ watch ← E174 all episodes E176 →

2
ideas born
10
ideas moved
16
captures · 4 voices
3
dissenting
+124.3
conviction added
-139.7
decay · 125 silent

Every number here is replayed from score_events — the same ledger the pool ranks on. Decay is what the 125 ideas nobody mentioned gave up this week; it applies only when an episode is processed.

Tier crossings

conviction thresholds crossed by this episode — 65 / 45 / 15 · ideas born here show where they landed. why 65 isn't always green

▲ +5.3 🏛️ Speculative-competition antitrust blocks chill tech M&A watch green threshold 64.7 → 70.0 still watch — green gate not met
▲ +20.0 🤖 Gemini's ideological tuning breaks Google's AI product ember watch 44.5 → 64.5
▲ +49.8 🏛️ Section 174 R&D amortization crushes small R&D-heavy companies born at watch 49.8
▲ +49.3 📈 Gamified betting apps take a rising share of the consumer wallet born at watch 49.3
▼ -24.2 🏛️ TikTok gets banned or force-divested and US platforms take the attention green threshold watch 72.9 → 48.6

Kill dates that landed since E174

1 hit · 0 partial · 0 miss — windows that closed after 2024-04-12 and up to 2024-04-19, auto-scored against price data and never hand-set. verdict · R · α

ideaverdictRαclosed
🏛️ An FDA for AI — model deployment gets licensed at the compute layer HIT +48.7% +23.0 2024-04-14

Who moved the board

each voice's force on conviction this episodesupports and opposes, weighted exactly as the replay applied them · share = % of this episode's movement

Jason
Jason
7 captures · 37% of movement
+61.5 / -12.0 → net +49.5
Chamath
Chamath
3 captures · 30% of movement · 1 idea born
+35.2 / -25.3 → net +9.9
Friedberg
Friedberg
4 captures · 25% of movement · 1 idea born
+49.8 → net +49.8
Sacks
Sacks
2 captures · 8% of movement
+15.2 → net +15.2

What got argued (10 ideas)

ordered by how hard each idea moved · quotes are verbatim from the transcript, timestamps deep-link into the episode

NEW IWM 🏛️ Section 174 R&D amortization crushes small R&D-heavy companies closed 7 ▲ +49.8 0.0 → 49.8

The 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act's Section 174 provision, live since 2023, forces companies to amortize R&D expense over five years, so break-even software, life-sciences, lab-equipment and defense small businesses owe cash tax on phantom profits. The bipartisan repeal passed the House but stalled in the Senate over the child tax credit and blew through April 15 without being made retroactive, so hundreds of thousands of small R&D-heavy firms borrow, take IRS penalties, or die - and US innovation spend gets taxed at the margin while offshore R&D stays on a 15-year schedule.

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Friedberg
Friedberg support ×3 explicit_prediction ▶ 1:03:59
The literally hundreds of thousands of small businesses that work in the life sciences sector, the defense sector, the tech sector, that are struggling this year to make the tax payments that are required under this law... And now they're going to have this huge tax bill, even though they didn't make any money this year. And it's crippling businesses around the country.
Jason
Jason support ×2 explicit_prediction ▶ 1:09:37
You got to figure out a way to fix this tax issue, or else we're going to kill a lot of startups.
NEW DKNG 📈 Gamified betting apps take a rising share of the consumer wallet closed 9 ▲ +49.3 0.0 → 49.3

With 38 states legalized post-PASPA, betting apps engineered for addiction pull a growing share of consumer free cash flow - especially from young men with cash and time - and the ecosystem is now structurally locked in: states booked ~$11B of revenue last year (+44.5%), leagues take a data and revenue cut, media integrates betting at the editorial level, and sportsbooks buy player endorsements. Chamath's call is that gambling volumes and addiction 'skyrocket' from here as stimulus and transfer payments keep putting money in consumers' hands, which is revenue for the listed operators - with a societal-backlash and regulatory tail as the risk.

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Chamath
Chamath support ×3 explicit_prediction ▶ 1:17:42
everything is being gamified ... So these forms of gambling and addiction are just going to skyrocket, I think, because you have these apps that are really incredibly well-engineered to get you super hooked.
Jason
Jason support ×2 explicit_prediction ▶ 1:19:52
The states are getting massive amounts of revenue, $11 billion generated last year, up 44.5%... The sportsbooks, obviously killing it. DraftKings got a $20 billion... It's making the games more engaging. And the media is loving this.
META 🏛️ TikTok gets banned or force-divested and US platforms take the attention closed 57 CONTESTED ▼ -24.2 72.9 → 48.6
Chamath
Chamath oppose ×2 sentiment ▶ 1:01:09
I stumbled into the fact that YouTube has YouTube Shorts, and there is a lot of that content, but it's terrible and the algorithm is really bad. And so fortunately, I just stopped using YouTube.
Jason
Jason oppose ×2 sentiment ▶ 1:01:35
the algorithm is such a key component of that TikTok experience... Shorts serves up garbage. Instagram serves up garbage.
GOOGL 🤖 Gemini's ideological tuning breaks Google's AI product closed 0 CONTESTED ▲ +20.0 44.5 → 64.5
Friedberg
Friedberg support ×2 sentiment ▶ 16:35
there may have been this kind of entitlement culture where anytime Google employees ask for stuff, they get it... That's so much of the orientation of being an employee at Google is all about what Google can do for me and how I can get more.
Jason
Jason support ×2 sentiment ▶ 21:38
which we talked about with the Gemini issues and this stuff bleeding over into product... are people actually focused on products at Google anymore?
MTCH 📈 Trade the second-order cost of immersive tech, not Apple's revenue closed 18 CONTESTED ▲ +11.0 24.5 → 35.5
Jason
Jason support ×2 sentiment ▶ 59:58
I think it's going to ruin social existence... The constant distraction is just horrific. And it's having a horrible impact on this generation.
BZFD 📈 Ad-supported legacy media is structurally dead closed 68 ▲ +10.8 53.7 → 64.5
Jason
Jason support ×1 sentiment ▶ 39:29
They should just cut NPR and all this public broadcasting stuff loose over the next year or two, wind it down and let them fend for themselves in the new media landscape.
Sacks
Sacks support ×2 sentiment ▶ 40:11
They could easily substack it. NPR is not going to go away. Just create subscriptions and you're fine.
GS 🏛️ Speculative-competition antitrust blocks chill tech M&A closed 53 CONTESTED ▲ +5.3 64.7 → 70.0
Jason
Jason support ×2 sentiment ▶ 1:09:37
We got to have a better solution for allowing companies to be bought and sold in this or merge in this country... These two things are putting a lot of headwinds on the startup ecosystem and on the venture and the risk taking capital ecosystems.
IPO 📈 Startup mass extinction event in late 2023 and 2024 closed 35 ▲ +3.8 70.6 → 74.4
Friedberg
Friedberg support ×2 sentiment ▶ 42:54
the general tone here is a deep tech investment is very likely to fail because you spend so much money before you even know... So it's a tough data point for other deep tech companies that need to raise a lot of capital.
AAPL 🤖 Apple's AR headset becomes the next compute platform closed 22 CONTESTED ▼ -3.3 29.0 → 25.7
Chamath
Chamath oppose ×3 explicit_prediction ▶ 54:01
the idea that you start to rely on a device as your interface into the world, I would take the exact other side of the bat... I think you're going to rip the devices off and actually be at Coachella without any devices.
Sacks
Sacks support ×2 explicit_prediction ▶ 55:29
I think that humans are becoming more and more cybernetic... I would not bet against things that make us more cybernetic.
TLT 🏦 Phase three of the 2023 crisis is a US government debt crisis closed 87 ▲ +1.8 84.7 → 86.5
Friedberg
Friedberg support ×2 sentiment ▶ 1:10:31
the Trump tax cut that he put in place in 2017 added one and a half trillion dollars to the federal deficit... it does highlight just how much we are spending at the federal level and the demand for tax revenue... which is now we're going to eat into innovation, which is supposed to drive, get us out of the problem, the spiral that results from this debt.

Episode digest

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DIARIZATION DEFECT: only three labels exist (Jason 160, Chamath 133, Sacks 45) and Friedberg has zero turns despite being addressed by name a dozen times, answering questions and getting the 'sultan of science' sign-off - he is merged into CHAMATH's label (the confirmed E130/E133/E136 shape), with Jason's cold-open question also bleeding into the 0:00 Chamath turn. Resolved per-turn from address cues: Jason hands the Google question to Friedberg at 14:30 and the 16:35 'Chamath' turn answers it, then says 'the entitlement issues that Friedberg alludes to' before calling on the real Chamath at 18:52; the same pattern marks 42:54/45:02 (Humane) and the whole Section 174 explainer as Friedberg, while 53:34-57:28 and 1:11:19-1:12:14 are genuinely Chamath. The 1:03:59 turn is a three-way within-turn merge (Friedberg, a Chamath interjection at 'But Friedberg, they know basic math', then Friedberg again) - both quoted spans are from the Friedberg portions. Substantively: Friedberg's Section 174 R&D-amortization crisis is the new tradeable thread (bipartisan House fix stalled in the Senate over the child tax credit, small life-sciences/defense/software firms paying cash tax on phantom profit), coined as a new idea, with Jason adding the M&A-chill ask on top; the Humane pin debate re-opened Sacks' 2023 'Terminator mode' wearable-platform thesis with him re-upping ('I would not bet against things that make us more cybernetic') against a table-pounding Chamath oppose; and the first real crack in the unanimous TikTok-ban trade appeared - Chamath and Jason both testified that YouTube Shorts and Instagram Reels are garbage and they simply stopped watching short video rather than switching, which cuts directly at the 'attention migrates to US platforms' leg. Google's protest firings produced culture criticism (bearish-GOOGL flavor, attached to the Gemini idea) but no fresh valuation or turnaround call, so the E168 buy-the-fear thesis got no update; NPR was mostly culture war except Sacks' 'they could easily substack it'. JUDGEMENT CALLS: Chamath simultaneously predicts a pendulum swing away from visible devices, which arguably undercuts his own loneliness-economy spread trade - captured as an AR oppose only, not as a loneliness reversal; the sports-betting idea is coined bullish because rising volumes are operator revenue even though the besties frame it as a social harm.