E160: 2024 Predictions! Markets, tech, politics, and more
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What got argued (13 ideas)
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Latency and token prices are economically untenable; custom-hardware startups 1000x the market, open-source proliferates, closed-model economics get reallocated — OpenAI's enterprise value falls and it is 'very hard for NVIDIA to maintain a multiple of market cap' in 2024. LLM startups reprice 50-80% down.
I think the enterprise value of OpenAI goes down... folks [building custom hardware] will multiply the capability of this market by 1000x... open source models really proliferate, proprietary and closed models go under pressure... it's going to be very hard for existing folks — and I would say the same is probably true for NVIDIA — to maintain a multiple of market cap. In this next year, that happens.
My worst-performing asset in 2024 is LLM startups. They've been massively overvalued and open source is making an incredible run at them... too many players and too much parity... they're all going to come down by 50, 60, 70, 80% in terms of their valuations.
Loss of cheap Russian gas guts the industrial model while a glut of cheap Chinese cars hits the auto industry — double whammy for Germany in 2024.
My prediction for biggest business loser in 2024 is actually the German economy... the loss of cheap Russian gas has really cut the legs out from under the German industrial model... [and] a sudden glut of cheap cars coming from China... double whammy for Germany.
Regional bank balance sheets can't survive without continued Fed liquidity (BTFP replacement/extension) given impaired CRE portfolios and an inverted curve — the fragility persists through 2024.
I do not think that the balance sheets of regional banks are healthy enough to survive without this continued liquidity [BTFP]... regional banks are still in pretty bad shape with impaired commercial debt portfolios... they need this liquidity as long as the yield curve remains inverted.
Upgrade fatigue plus austerity means consumers skip two or three phone generations; smartphone makers face a major slowdown with Apple the tip of the spear.
Models hit parity and commoditize; the value shifts to proprietary training-data owners who extract licensing fees (NYT-OpenAI suit ends in a nine-figure settlement plus ongoing license).
My biggest winner in 2024: training data owners like the New York Times, Reddit, X, YouTube... language models are hitting parity... the real value is going to be in the training data... I think it's going to be a nine-figure settlement and an ongoing licensing fee.
Apple won't stay on the AI sidelines: big generative-AI moves, maybe a rebooted Siri, land by end of 2024.
Spot ETF approvals days away let Bitcoin cross the chasm: parents and grandparents can buy it and do, making BTC part of the traditional financial lexicon by end of 2024.
This is the most important year for Bitcoin that has ever existed. We are probably days away from a series of ETFs being approved... this is the moment for Bitcoin to cross the chasm and really see mainstream adoption... Bitcoin will be a part of the traditional financial lexicon by the end of 2024.
What goes up must come down: AI gains broaden out beyond the Mag-7, so the equal-weight S&P beats the cap-weighted index in 2024.
I would bet against the Magnificent Seven... I'm just saying that the S&P 493 are going to catch up a little bit. So I would book this as a spread trade where I would bet on the S&P 493 over the Magnificent Seven... I don't see why those gains should be limited to the Magnificent Seven if AI is going to play such a big role in the economy.
Terminal valuations reset in public markets while late-stage private SaaS faces valuation contraction plus 30% stock-comp dilution — long the public tech index against the private cohort. (Only the long leg is tradeable.)
18-24 months of underinvestment plus inventory restocking plus cash rotating out of treasuries as yields fall = commodities businesses have a killer 2024.
Nuclear renaissance — China building 100+ reactors, ESG and conflict-driven demand, global deregulation — makes the uranium complex an 'inevitability'; URA named explicitly.
I took the uranium ETF, URA... it's an inevitability... China is building up nuclear power stations... a lot of deregulatory effort underway globally to get nuclear power back on track. These companies are going to benefit from this big macro cycle.
Middle East escalation, Ukraine, Venezuela-Guyana, Red Sea disruption — many paths to an oil spike make energy stocks/prices top performers in 2024.
My guess here, just a guess, is energy stocks, energy prices could be among the top performers of 2024, just because there's so much risk of conflict breaking out now and escalating... so many ways that conflict could escalate and create a spike in the price of oil. [Heavily disclaimed: 'I would urge nobody to actually trade on this.']
Tapped-out consumers keep buying small luxuries — delivery, trips, rides — making consumer comfort services the best performers of 2024.
Episode digest
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The 2024 predictions episode. Chamath talks his Groq book without naming it — inference costs collapse 1000x via custom hardware, OpenAI's enterprise value falls, 'very hard for NVIDIA to maintain a multiple' — and Jason piles on with LLM-startups-down-50-80%; the same Chamath calls Bitcoin's ETF year 'the most important year for Bitcoin that has ever existed.' Friedberg goes specific for once with URA as best asset and a commodities restock boom; Sacks fades the Mag-7 for the S&P 493, calls the German economy the big loser, flags regional banks as BTFP-dependent, and hedge-picks conflict-driven energy. Jason contradicts himself on AAPL in one episode (bearish smartphone fatigue as biggest loser, bullish Apple-AI as contrarian) — both captured; he also discloses positions in two of DoorDash/Airbnb/Uber for his consumer-comfort pick and says he is building a large Anduril secondary position targeting 2% (private, untradeable). Skipped as untradeable: Anduril Roadrunner (Sacks), bootstrapped startups (Chamath), pro-sports-valuations peak (Chamath), vertical-SaaS-gets-smacked (Friedberg — no instrument despite strong receipts), Starlink/TikTok IPO deal picks, rights-holder licensing deals, nuclear-use probability and Turkey/NATO (Friedberg), all political picks (Putin winner, collective-West loser, third-party rise). TRANSCRIPT QUALITY — worst so far: Chamath is present but has ZERO labels; his turns are merged into 'David Friedberg' (e.g. 'Chamath, what's your contrarian belief?' answered under Friedberg's label, referencing his associate Sunny). Every Chamath/Friedberg attribution here was disambiguated via Jason's question-answer chains and content receipts; confidence high on all captured mentions.