Elon gets paid, Apple's AI pop, OpenAI revenue rip, Macro debate & Inside Trump Fundraiser
2024-06-14 spoken.md · speaker-labeled ▶ watch ← E182 all episodes E184 →
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Tier crossings
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Kill dates that landed since E182
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| 🪙 SEC suits drive the US crypto exchanges offshore | MISS | -394.1% | -419.4 | 2024-06-10 |
| 📈 Star athletes take the equity off the sports owners | MISS | -5.5% | -30.8 | 2024-06-10 |
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Friedberg's counter to OpenAI's $3.4B run rate: open Llama instances already deliver 85-90% of what an enterprise needs, so once companies learn how to fine-tune and wire a model into their own internal data, they build their own LLM tooling rather than pay per seat or per token for ChatGPT. He explicitly frames it as a couple of years out and floats 'maybe OpenAI is AOL' — proprietary model revenue is a transitional artifact of enterprise inexperience, and the value accrues to whoever supplies the open weights and the inference.
I can see like a couple years from now, all these big enterprises are going to figure the same thing out, and then you're not necessarily going to need to pay for the ChatGPT stuff if there's an internal tool and an internal LLM that you can run.
Friedberg's read of Apple Intelligence: for two decades hardware was just a portal to internet apps, but AI forces tight hardware/OS/model coupling, so the device becomes the value creator and app developers get demoted to services that the on-device AI calls. He generalizes it across the stack — Groq's chip+software, Google's TPU+Cloud tooling, Nvidia's software layer, Pixel — and frames it as playing out over the next couple of years, so hardware owners capture more of the AI margin than the market's commodity-hardware assumption implies.
But now it seems like a lot of value might actually get captured by hardware companies in all points in the value stack. So it's an interesting moment. And I think that this just shines a light on that trend that I think is going to play out over the next couple of years.
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Tesla shareholders re-approved Elon's $56B package at the same 73% margin and voted to redomicile to Texas; Sacks framed the Delaware suit as a trial-lawyer heist and warned Delaware loses its corporate-law franchise if the plaintiffs' billions in fees get awarded, while Chamath disclosed he incorporated AD90 in Nevada and has re-domiciled other companies there. Apple Intelligence split the pod — Jason called it Apple winning the AI consumer on the strength of its local-data moat, Sacks noted the market bought the vaporware but flagged that letting OpenAI beneath the app-store layer torches Apple's own privacy defence against sideloading, and Chamath dismissed the whole event as 'not much of anything'. On OpenAI's reported $3.4B run rate, Sacks moved the value entirely to B2B and admitted he may not keep paying $20/month once Gemini or Grok catch up (a reversal on his own E165 consumer-lead call), Chamath flagged US ChatGPT traffic down ~25% since school let out plus an ex-US ARPU problem, and Friedberg argued Llama gets enterprises 85-90% of the way and 'maybe OpenAI is AOL'. The macro block was the real fight: Jason claimed Powell has already stuck the landing, and Friedberg (1.3% GDP vs 3%+ inflation vs 4.7% cost of money), Chamath (savings exhausted, unemployment turning up, more than one cut) and Sacks ('a lot of happy talk') all took the other side. ATTRIBUTION WARNING: Friedberg has no working diarization label in this episode — every Friedberg capture here (29:14, 44:20, 1:02:26, 1:07:49, 1:09:09) was re-attributed from content out of Chamath's label and is worth an audio spot-check.