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🏦 Fed and ECB are in a much tighter posture a year from now

Persistent wage and input inflation forces the Fed and the ECB off zero sooner than the market expects; policy rates and yields are materially higher a year out.

0 CONVICTION
peaked 67.9 GREEN
WATCH
band · contested
▼ SHORT TLT
expression · bearish rates
HIT
outcome · R +31.0% · α +49.8%
2022-10-16
window closed
⚠ CONFLICTING IDEA ON THE SAME TICKER — the board is arguing with itself; net it before trading (ticker view →)
TLT · Fed easing + disinflation into 2026 LONG DORMANT 10.5

also touching these tickers, same direction: US fiscal spiral keeps long-end yields grinding higher 67 (TLT)

⚖ Why this verdict

fully deterministic — evaluate.py replays this from daily closes; nothing below is editable or hand-set

  1. Window: 2021-10-16 → 2022-10-16 — first mention + 12-month horizon, then the window locks.
  2. The call: ▼ SHORT TLT (primary play). TLT fell 31.0% over the window → direction-adjusted R = +31.0% (the call made money).
  3. Benchmark: holding SPY over the same window returned -18.8%α = +31.0 − (-18.8) = +49.8% — what this call made or lost against just owning the index. This is the number the verdict uses.
    Stock-selection read: +12.2% — did TLT move the predicted way relative to the market. The two only differ on a SHORT: this call beat the index outright.
  4. Rule fired:
    ▶ HIT — R ≥ +10% AND α ≥ +5 ✓ (R 31.0, α 49.8)
    · PARTIAL — R ≥ +5% OR α ≥ 0
    · MISS — everything else
  5. Credit: supporters of a HIT earn 1.0 each, opposers the inverse — this feeds the scoreboard weights. supported: Chamath, Sacks | opposed: Friedberg

Conviction timeline

bands: green ≥ 65 · watch ≥ 45 · ember ≥ 15

Plays vs SPY · % since first mention (2021-10-16)

Plays

expressionsymbolkindrelevancerationale
▼ SHORT TLTetf PRIMARY long-duration Treasuries fall as policy rates and yields rise
▼ SHORT IEFetf adjacent belly of the curve reprices on the same hiking path
▼ SHORT LQDetf adjacent long-duration IG credit carries the same rate risk

Mention log

Chamath
Chamath rates w=0.88 · n=16 · E51 (2021-10-16) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 18:53 SUPPORT · horizon 12mo
“So this is it. And I think that probably the Fed and the ECB are really raising. This time next year, they're probably in a really, really tighter posture.”
Sacks
Sacks rates w=1.08 · n=12 · E51 (2021-10-16) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 27:48 OPPOSE
“But I actually think that the degrees of action that the Fed can take here might be more constrained than people think.”
Chamath
Chamath rates w=0.88 · n=16 · E53 (2021-10-30) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 45:25 SUPPORT · horizon 18mo
“And if the Fed stops tapering and, you know, hikes rates two or three times over the next 12 or 18 months, man, this is an ugly, ugly stock market.”
Sacks
Sacks rates w=1.08 · n=12 · E55 (2021-11-13) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 56:08 OPPOSE
“So there's going to be enormous pressure on the Fed not to raise rates. You already are hearing Biden rattling the saber saying that Pal may not be his choice for a second term. By the way, Pal is very dovish.”
Sacks
Sacks rates w=1.08 · n=12 · E57 (2021-12-04) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 30:41 SUPPORT
“For the first six months of the year, all you heard out of Washington, the administration, was this inflation was transitory. That story has basically collapsed because now people can see that it's persistent. ... They're now pricing in the risk of interest rate increases.”
Sacks
Sacks rates w=1.08 · n=12 · E58 (2021-12-11) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 42:08 SUPPORT · horizon 12mo
“And here's another thing is the Fed is now saying that they're projecting two to three rate increases next year. So let's call that 75 basis points, multiply that by the close to 30 trillion of government debt”
Chamath
Chamath rates w=0.88 · n=16 · E59 (2021-12-17) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 29:58 SUPPORT · horizon 12mo
“we now see a Fed posture, which is actually pretty reasonable, which actually says, oh, wait, there's way too much money in the system as it is. ... the Fed two days ago basically said, we're going to see up to three rate hikes next year, probably 50 basis points each. ... we have printed way too much money and they're trying to fix the problem that they created”
Sacks
Sacks rates w=1.08 · n=12 · E59 (2021-12-17) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 31:38 SUPPORT
“now the Fed a couple of days ago finally gave us clarity. I mean, what they basically said is they're going to accelerate the taper. They'll end quantitative easing at the end of Q1 ... So when they stop doing that, I think you can expect that, you know, interest rates are going to need to rise in order to make our debt attractive to, you know, to bond buyers.”
Sacks
Sacks rates w=1.08 · n=12 · E65 (2022-01-29) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 46:21 SUPPORT
“Clearly, Powell does not want to be remembered as the Fed chief that let inflation slip the leash, right? I mean, he's gotten religion now around the idea that this inflation is not transitory, which was his position for months.”
Friedberg
Friedberg rates w=0.79 · n=14 · E70 (2022-02-24) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 57:17 OPPOSE
“if you looked at the trading prices of bonds, you probably would have assumed a 95% chance of a half point rate hike in March. And as of today, my guess is that the probability of that is below 5%. ... And so this is not a great time to do a half point rate hike. And so it's almost certain at this point that they're not going to do a half point rate hike.”
Chamath
Chamath rates w=0.88 · n=16 · E71 (2022-03-05) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 1:10:31 REVERSAL
“he said he's going to raise by 25 basis points in March. Everybody knew that, right? So we took the 50 basis pointer off the table. But then he was very clear that they were going to be data driven. ... I think there could be a real possibility that Powell becomes very accommodative. ... he and Biden and the entire administration come together with Europe and everybody else and say, get the money printer back going”
Sacks
Sacks rates w=1.08 · n=12 · E74 (2022-04-01) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 14:34 SUPPORT
“You can't really drop interest rates much more. And if you do, you'll get much worse inflation. So it seems to me that we don't have a lot of tools here.”
Chamath
Chamath rates w=0.88 · n=16 · E75 (2022-04-09) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 10:26 SUPPORT
“So I think what the Fed's going to do is get even more aggressive. You're going to probably see, you know, a lot of 50s, maybe even a 75 point hike”
Chamath
Chamath rates w=0.88 · n=16 · E78 (2022-04-30) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 31:54 OPPOSE
“How do you raise rates 400 basis points into a slowing economy? You could raise basis points 75, you know, 75 bits, maybe 100 bits, but it gives them very little freedom to operate without really tanking the economy.”
Sacks
Sacks rates w=1.08 · n=12 · E80 (2022-05-13) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 1:30:37 SUPPORT
“But the point is the Fed is in a really tough spot here because it feels like we're going into recession, which would normally mean you cut rates, but then you've got inflation demanding that we jack up rates far more.”
Chamath
Chamath rates w=0.88 · n=16 · E84 (2022-06-24) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 21:24 SUPPORT
“I think you need to buckle your seatbelt because the next three, four, five months of CPI will probably be very, very bad. ... So they will overcorrect because there is just going to be so much pressure for them to act.”
Sacks
Sacks rates w=1.08 · n=12 · E84 (2022-06-24) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 27:00 SUPPORT
“And this is why I think the Fed is probably more likely to overshoot on raising rates is because if they really want to stop inflation now, they really have to slam on the brakes.”
Chamath
Chamath rates w=0.88 · n=16 · E89 (2022-07-29) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 16:24 SUPPORT
“We've never in the history of America ever had CPI print above four and a half or five percent without inflation being brought down by having Fed funds not also be greater than four and a half or five percent. So at some point, inflation will turn over and will print six and seven percent, but that's still not below four and a half or five.”
Chamath
Chamath rates w=0.88 · n=16 · E90 (2022-08-05) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 25:40 SUPPORT
“I'll say it again. I've said it now five pods in a row. We've never seen a moment in history, in American history, where when CPI has printed successively above 5%, that it got under 5% without Fed funds getting to that same number. So we should all hope that this is the exception that proves the rule, but there's an enormous amount of data that would tell you that we have to take rates to double what the equilibrium rate is thought to be right now.”
Sacks
Sacks rates w=1.08 · n=12 · E90 (2022-08-05) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 24:10 SUPPORT · horizon 3mo
“The thing about that is though that I think what the PAL and what the Fed says today about rates is way less important than what the inflation data will actually show in a few months. If we still have 9% inflation three months from now, then I don't think the rate increases are done.”

Who built this conviction

each voice's total force on the score — supports and opposes from every mention, weighted exactly as the replay applied them · share = % of all mention-driven movement

Chamath
Chamath w=0.88
9 scoring events · 49% of moves
+85.8 / -32.9 → net +52.9
Sacks
Sacks w=1.08
10 scoring events · 47% of moves
+87.8 / -26.0 → net +61.8
Friedberg
Friedberg w=0.79
1 scoring event · 5% of moves
+0.0 / -11.3 → net -11.3

⏳ decay drained -58.3 over the idea's life — that's time passing, attributed to no one

Score events

episodekindΔafternote
E51 2021-10-16 init +30.6 30.6 E51 born by Chamath (explicit_prediction x2) [w=0.88]
E51 2021-10-16 oppose -13.0 17.6 E51 Sacks opposes x2 [w=1.08]
E52 2021-10-23 decay -0.7 16.9 E52 silent
E53 2021-10-30 reinforce +13.1 30.0 E53 Chamath support x3 [w=0.88]
E54 2021-11-06 decay -1.2 28.8 E54 silent
E55 2021-11-13 oppose -13.0 15.8 E55 Sacks opposes x2 [w=1.08]
E56 2021-11-20 decay -0.6 15.2 E56 silent
E57 2021-12-04 reinforce +13.8 29.0 E57 Sacks support x2 (flipped from oppose) [w=1.08]
E58 2021-12-11 reinforce +11.5 40.5 E58 Sacks support x2 [w=1.08]
E59 2021-12-17 reinforce +7.8 48.3 E59 Chamath support x2 [w=0.88]
E59 2021-12-17 reinforce +8.4 56.7 E59 Sacks support x2 [w=1.08]
E60 2021-12-23 decay -2.3 54.4 E60 silent
E61 2021-12-29 decay -2.2 52.3 E61 silent
E62 2022-01-08 decay -2.1 50.2 E62 silent
E63 2022-01-15 decay -2.0 48.2 E63 silent
E64 2022-01-22 decay -1.9 46.2 E64 silent
E65 2022-01-29 reinforce +8.7 55.0 E65 Sacks support x2 [w=1.08]
E66 2022-02-05 decay -2.2 52.8 E66 silent
E67 2022-02-12 decay -2.1 50.7 E67 silent
E68 2022-02-19 decay -2.0 48.6 E68 silent
E70 2022-02-24 oppose -11.3 37.3 E70 Friedberg opposes x3 [w=0.79]
E71 2022-03-05 reversal -22.4 14.9 E71 Chamath flips
E72 2022-03-19 decay -0.6 14.3 E72 silent
E73 2022-03-26 decay -0.6 13.8 E73 silent
E74 2022-04-01 reinforce +14.0 27.8 E74 Sacks support x2 [w=1.08]
E75 2022-04-09 reinforce +9.5 37.3 E75 Chamath support x2 (flipped from reversal) [w=0.88]
E76 2022-04-16 decay -1.5 35.8 E76 silent
E77 2022-04-23 decay -1.4 34.3 E77 silent
E78 2022-04-30 oppose -10.5 23.8 E78 Chamath opposes x2 [w=0.88]
E79 2022-05-07 decay -1.0 22.9 E79 silent
E80 2022-05-13 reinforce +15.0 37.9 E80 Sacks support x3 [w=1.08]
E81 2022-05-23 decay -1.5 36.4 E81 silent
E82 2022-05-24 decay -1.5 34.9 E82 silent
E84 2022-06-24 reinforce +10.2 45.2 E84 Chamath support x3 (flipped from oppose) [w=0.88]
E84 2022-06-24 reinforce +8.9 54.1 E84 Sacks support x2 [w=1.08]
E85 2022-06-30 decay -2.2 51.9 E85 silent
E86 2022-07-08 decay -2.1 49.9 E86 silent
E87 2022-07-14 decay -2.0 47.9 E87 silent
E88 2022-07-22 decay -1.9 45.9 E88 silent
E89 2022-07-29 reinforce +8.5 54.5 E89 Chamath support x3 [w=0.88]
E90 2022-08-05 reinforce +7.4 61.9 E90 Sacks support x2 [w=1.08]
E90 2022-08-05 reinforce +6.0 67.9 E90 Chamath support x3 [w=0.88]
E91 2022-08-13 decay -2.7 65.2 E91 silent
E92 2022-08-20 decay -2.6 62.5 E92 silent
E93 2022-08-26 decay -2.5 60.0 E93 silent
E94 2022-09-01 decay -2.4 57.6 E94 silent
E95 2022-09-10 decay -2.3 55.3 E95 silent
E96 2022-09-17 decay -2.2 53.1 E96 silent
E97 2022-09-23 decay -2.1 51.0 E97 silent
E98 2022-10-01 decay -2.0 49.0 E98 silent
E99 2022-10-07 decay -2.0 47.0 E99 silent
E100 2022-10-14 decay -1.9 45.1 E100 silent