E89

E89: GDP growth negative in Q2, $SHOP layoffs, Alzheimer's fraud, Ginkgo acquires Zymergen & more

2022-07-29 spoken.md · speaker-labeled ▶ watch ← E88 all episodes E90 →

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ideas born
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ideas moved
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captures · 4 voices
3
dissenting
+174.4
conviction added
-91.7
decay · 78 silent

Every number here is replayed from score_events — the same ledger the pool ranks on. Decay is what the 78 ideas nobody mentioned gave up this week; it applies only when an episode is processed.

Tier crossings

conviction thresholds crossed by this episode — 65 / 45 / 15 · ideas born here show where they landed. why 65 isn't always green

▲ +6.1 🌍 US population stall - births plus immigration collapse throttles the economy watch green threshold 63.7 → 69.9 still ember — green gate not met
▲ +27.7 📈 Pandemic pull-forward reverses — COVID winners take an estimate double-whammy ember green threshold 39.8 → 67.5 still ember — green gate not met
▲ +8.6 📈 Wall Street earnings estimates are wrong - the E resets, not just the multiple ember watch 43.0 → 51.6
▲ +9.0 📈 Low-diligence capital breeds a fraud wave in the venture-backed cohort ember watch 42.4 → 51.4
▲ +48.4 📈 Alzheimer's amyloid hypothesis was built on fraud - the anti-amyloid franchise busts born at watch 48.4
▲ +30.3 📈 Telehealth keeps its COVID share gain while e-commerce mean-reverts born at ember 30.3
▲ +22.5 📈 EV makers outrun the legacy automakers dormant ember 6.0 → 28.5
▲ +20.2 🏛️ Infrastructure-bill tax credits make the captured solar incumbents rip dormant ember 7.3 → 27.4
▲ +14.6 📈 Zymergen's implosion impairs the whole synthetic-biology cohort dormant ember 6.6 → 21.1
▼ -14.6 🤖 Synthetic biology's Netscape moment ember dormant 24.4 → 9.7
▼ -17.1 📈 Logistics real estate becomes a core institutional asset class ember dormant 17.1 → 0.0

Kill dates that landed since E88

0 hit · 0 partial · 1 miss — windows that closed after 2022-07-22 and up to 2022-07-29, auto-scored against price data and never hand-set. verdict · R · α

ideaverdictRαclosed
🤖 AlphaFold's open proteome kickstarts a drug-discovery wave MISS -36.2% -27.3 2022-07-23

Who moved the board

each voice's force on conviction this episodesupports and opposes, weighted exactly as the replay applied them · share = % of this episode's movement

Friedberg
Friedberg
8 captures · 57% of movement · 2 ideas born
+110.4 / -25.0 → net +85.4
Chamath
Chamath
8 captures · 26% of movement
+61.0 → net +61.0
Sacks
Sacks
4 captures · 15% of movement
+34.8 → net +34.8
Jason
Jason
1 capture · 3% of movement
+0.0 / -6.7 → net -6.7

What got argued (16 ideas)

ordered by how hard each idea moved · quotes are verbatim from the transcript, timestamps deep-link into the episode

NEW BIIB 📈 Alzheimer's amyloid hypothesis was built on fraud - the anti-amyloid franchise busts closed 7 ▲ +48.4 0.0 → 48.4

The foundational 2006 Nature amyloid-beta paper that set the direction of Alzheimer's research is shown to contain forged Western-blot images after steering roughly $1.5B of NIH grants and billions more of private funding into anti-amyloid programs. Biogen's FDA-approved anti-amyloid drug already has no convincing efficacy data and no clinical uptake, so the anti-amyloid Alzheimer's franchise and the names levered to it get repriced while funding rotates toward alternative causal theories (viral/infectious precursors, mitochondrial dysfunction).

plays BIIB ·primary LLY PRTA evals 2023-07-29
Chamath
Chamath support ×2 explicit_prediction ▶ 1:07:52
No, what I'm saying is the NIH budget per year for Alzheimer's and dementia is 1.9 billion. Half of it, if you look at the tags, if you just search the tags, half the money has gone into Alzheimer's disease, amyloid beta.
Friedberg
Friedberg support ×3 explicit_prediction ▶ 1:08:55
And now the drug is in the market. Biogen gets approval and people start taking it. And we're seeing the data. It doesn't work. And no one wants to use it. So the market has collapsed and you kind of go back to the origin.
NEW TDOC 📈 Telehealth keeps its COVID share gain while e-commerce mean-reverts closed 5 ▲ +30.3 0.0 → 30.3

Unlike e-commerce, the COVID surge in virtual care does not fully mean-revert: 36% of US patients used a telehealth service in 2021, a 420% increase over 2019, and the convenience edge over sitting in a waiting room for a routine prescription or consult is real enough that a structurally higher share of visits stays virtual after lockdowns end. Friedberg calls it 'a significant sticking point' and 'an acceleration in that department' on the same episode the besties write off Shopify, Peloton and the rest of the stay-at-home cohort.

plays TDOC ·primary HIMS evals 2023-07-29
Friedberg
Friedberg support ×2 explicit_prediction ▶ 23:53
And 36% of patients used a telehealth service in 2021, 420% increase over 2019 And so despite some reversion post-COVID, post lockdowns, there's a significant sticking point that and I think 60% of telehealth patients are women.
PTON 📈 Pandemic pull-forward reverses — COVID winners take an estimate double-whammy closed 23 ▲ +27.7 39.8 → 67.5
Chamath
Chamath support ×3 explicit_prediction ▶ 19:50
I mean, mean reversion is a bitch. If you look at Shopify stock, if you look at Peloton stock, if you look at Affirm stock, if you look at Arc, you know, a lot of these things were trending in a great direction. They had this short-term crazy behavior in the middle of all of this free money, and now they've mean reverted.
Sacks
Sacks support ×2 sentiment ▶ 21:08
I mean, everybody made that mistake, right? So, you know, it's just you're right, Chamath. Just own it. Everyone was thinking the same thing. We're talking about how COVID was this acceleration of this virus, and it was going to accelerate all these trends.
Friedberg
Friedberg support ×2 explicit_prediction ▶ 28:21
if you're working in the office, you're going to do more e-commerce. And if you're working at home, you're probably going to do less e-commerce. So there's probably some net-net balance. We saw both of them rise together during COVID, but now there's more of an equilibrium being reached.
TSLA 📈 EV makers outrun the legacy automakers closed 16 ▲ +22.5 6.0 → 28.5
Friedberg
Friedberg support ×2 explicit_prediction ▶ 45:50
Every consumer wants to save money on transportation and you will save money by buying an electric vehicle. So you will already buy an electric vehicle.
Chamath
Chamath support ×2 explicit_prediction ▶ 46:24
And EVs just cross 5%. So to his point, the historical data would tell you that we're now past the critical point where it's no longer questionable and now it's just going to happen.
RUN 🏛️ Infrastructure-bill tax credits make the captured solar incumbents rip closed 34 ▲ +20.2 7.3 → 27.4
Sacks
Sacks support ×2 explicit_prediction ▶ 39:11
And the vast majority of the bill, like you said, are subsidies for clean energy, which are basically handouts to special interests in the donor class and the Democratic Party.
PLD 📈 Logistics real estate becomes a core institutional asset class closed 0 CONTESTED ▼ -17.1 17.1 → 0.0
Friedberg
Friedberg oppose ×2 explicit_prediction ▶ 23:53
So they overbuilt, tried to get ahead of the curve. Remember, they hired like a hundred thousand workers. And, you know, they had to make a pipeline for quarters ahead to build warehouses. Now they're realizing the demand is not going to be there. And they're cutting back on 15 warehouses around the country and not going to build them.
Jason
Jason oppose ×2 sentiment ▶ 25:47
They were buying up so many warehouses. I had a couple of companies that were looking for warehouses in Los Angeles, Northern California, and Amazon just bought an option on every single warehouse they could find. And now they're putting them back on the market. So they definitely went too heavy.
CDXS 📈 Zymergen's implosion impairs the whole synthetic-biology cohort closed 20 ▲ +14.6 6.6 → 21.1
Friedberg
Friedberg support ×3 explicit_prediction ▶ 1:10:18
Zymergen being acquired for $300 million comes off of them having raised a total of $1.5 billion of capital from many investors, including SoftBank and then their IPO since they were founded in 2013
ARKG 🤖 Synthetic biology's Netscape moment closed 0 CONTESTED ▼ -14.6 24.4 → 9.7
Friedberg
Friedberg reversal ×3 explicit_prediction ▶ 1:12:49
But the industrialization, the amount of capital these guys raised and what they promised they would deliver on when turned out not to quite beat the economics, not to quite get there. And the market decisions they made about what products to go after, how quickly to scale up, building their own facilities. There was just a lot of strategic errors. And I think the storytelling got ahead of where the business was.
IPO 📈 Low-diligence capital breeds a fraud wave in the venture-backed cohort closed 49 ▲ +9.0 42.4 → 51.4
Friedberg
Friedberg support ×3 explicit_prediction ▶ 1:06:47
But we then tell ourselves stories, and those stories get us access to money, which allows us to pursue more science, which is meant to forward the market. And then eventually the market gets forwarded so much, and you spend a billion and a half dollars, and it turns out the whole thing doesn't work. Just like stock markets, it starts out as a voting machine in the beginning, and it's a weighing machine over time.
SPY 📈 Wall Street earnings estimates are wrong - the E resets, not just the multiple closed 23 CONTESTED ▲ +8.6 43.0 → 51.6
Chamath
Chamath support ×3 explicit_prediction ▶ 21:24
The root awakening is going to be for all these people who made all these bets, assuming that it's permanent. And specifically, I mean, you know, especially around real estate and work from home and all of this stuff, benefits, and it's all going to change now. And the reason I say that is the combination of reversion to the mean will impact a company's bottom line.
TLT 🏦 Fed and ECB are in a much tighter posture a year from now closed 45 CONTESTED ▲ +8.5 45.9 → 54.5
Chamath
Chamath support ×3 explicit_prediction ▶ 16:24
We've never in the history of America ever had CPI print above four and a half or five percent without inflation being brought down by having Fed funds not also be greater than four and a half or five percent. So at some point, inflation will turn over and will print six and seven percent, but that's still not below four and a half or five.
IWM 🌍 US population stall - births plus immigration collapse throttles the economy closed 28 CONTESTED ▲ +6.1 63.7 → 69.9
Sacks
Sacks support ×2 explicit_prediction ▶ 34:51
And yet, the unemployment rate is still in the 3% range. And the reason is because that if somebody drops out of the labor force and isn't looking for work, they don't get counted on the unemployment rate. So we do have, if you define unemployment as a large number of people who aren't working, we have a huge unemployment problem. But the problem is they're not counted because they're supposedly not looking for work. So I don't think this economy is that healthy.
ARKK 🌍 Fed ending QE drains liquidity-dependent assets in 2022 closed 76 ▲ +3.0 84.3 → 87.3
Chamath
Chamath support ×3 explicit_prediction ▶ 12:07
we have not seen an era without federally introduced spending, without federally introduced forms of quantitative easing since the great financial crisis. So we have been propping up our economy for 14 years straight now. So we have distorted the prices of bonds and fixed income. We've distorted the prices of equities. We've we've created an asset bubble in crypto out of nowhere.
URA ⚡ Energy crisis reverses green policy - nuclear and natural gas get rehabilitated closed 28 ▲ +2.9 70.0 → 72.9
Chamath
Chamath support ×3 explicit_prediction ▶ 41:23
It is a necessary bridge fuel. And so we need to, if we're talking about energy independence, it can't happen without us, frankly, drilling more and subsidizing the capital incentives of private companies to go and do this exploration work, which they have stopped, Jason.
SPY 🌍 Supply-chain crunch tips the US into 1970s-style stagflation next year closed 73 CONTESTED ▲ +2.3 88.6 → 90.9
Sacks
Sacks support ×3 explicit_prediction ▶ 7:15
Listen, we're at the beginning of a recession. It might turn out we might have a bounce in Q3. This might be more of a double dip. I suspect that's what it will be. But we know the cause of this. The cause of this recession is inflation.
XLE ⚡ Global conflict era begins — energy and defense outperform closed 73 ▲ +2.1 74.9 → 76.9
Chamath
Chamath support ×2 explicit_prediction ▶ 43:08
They have the perfect situation right now, which is it's an incredibly energy intensive world we live in, and we don't have nearly enough energy to do the work that needs to get done. And by the way, and you saw this this week already, where, you know, Putin cut Nord Stream by another 50%. It was already running at 40% capacity. He cut it down to 20%.

Episode digest

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The Q2 print made it two negative quarters and the besties split on what that means: Sacks calls the recession started, blames inflation and predicts a double dip, while Chamath refuses to read one quarter's print and instead pounds the table that Fed funds have to clear 4.5-5% - we are 'only 50% of the way there' - and that Powell's dovish comments synthetically re-eased conditions and let NASDAQ and crypto rip again. Chamath also reinforces his own earnings-reset call ('mean reversion is a bitch') off the Shopify layoff, with Sacks and Friedberg both attaching to the pandemic pull-forward thesis; Friedberg adds a real mechanism, that work-from-home and e-commerce move inversely rather than together, plus a fresh bullish read on telehealth keeping its COVID share gain (new idea, TDOC). The headline capture is a REVERSAL: Friedberg, the original proposer of the E32 'synthetic biology's Netscape moment' idea whose evidence was literally the Zymergen IPO and the Ginkgo SPAC, now walks it back - Zymergen sold to Ginkgo for $300M after raising $1.5B, and 'the storytelling got ahead of where the business was' - while explicitly keeping the 10-year bio-manufacturing thesis intact. New idea coined off the science corner: the 2006 amyloid-beta paper behind ~$1.5B of NIH Alzheimer's grants is shown to have forged images and Biogen's approved anti-amyloid drug has no efficacy and no uptake (bearish BIIB/PRTA). On the Inflation Reduction Act, Friedberg says the EV credit is a total waste because EVs already crossed the 5% mass-market tipping point (Chamath agrees), Sacks itemizes it as donor-class handouts, and Chamath restates fossil fuels as a necessary bridge fuel with producers refusing to drill. Diarization on the four hosts is CLEAN (Jason top talker, all addressed-by-name handoffs correct, fingerprints verified); the only defect is a 6-turn SPEAKER_5 overlap cluster of short fragments belonging to Sacks and Jason - no captures were taken from it.