E51: Supply Chain Shortages, Inflation, DeSantis, Ted Sarandos Netflix Memo, Cancel Culture, Fan Questions
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What got argued (9 ideas)
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With federal debt at 120-140% of GDP, normalising the 10-year to ~4.9% would push debt service toward 30% of GDP, so the political choice becomes austerity or monetising the debt. Monetisation wins, the dollar depreciates, and hard assets are the hedge.
And now inflation is making a return and the Fed is going to have to make some really tough choices about whether to control inflation and essentially impose austerity on the on government spending, or whether they monetize the debt, which will lead to a runaway depreciation of the dollar.
Ports, labour-force dropouts and factory shutdowns mean prices rise while goods and services aren't produced. Companies that can't deliver product can't book revenue, and that combination causes a stagflationary recession within a year.
So you have this pile up, I would say, of regulations ultimately, I'd say with COVID as the origin that have now caused this supply chain crisis. And unless it gets fixed, it could absolutely cause a 1970 style stagflation type recession next year.
I think it's coming. I don't think it's a short-term blip. And I think that we are in a period that will resemble the late 70s. ... And I think that, you know, you kind of want to be risk off and not own risk assets. ... I mean, look, I think you got a year to 18 months to kind of clean this stuff up
Now that low-wage labour has repriced from ~$20 to ~$33/hr and won't come back, automating fast food, local delivery, factory assembly and trucking finally pencils out. Automation and robotics vendors get a demand pull-forward, and the effect is ultimately deflationary.
The other free market argument that could be made is that these current trends will accelerate a trend towards more automation of low cost labor ... So there's a number of these automation industries that may significantly benefit and that ends up ultimately being deflationary and the market comes into balance.
Persistent wage and input inflation forces the Fed and the ECB off zero sooner than the market expects; policy rates and yields are materially higher a year out.
Sorry, Friedberg, last thing. Tech stocks in the fucking toilet. ... No bueno for no cash flow growth stocks. ... When interest rates start going up, they say, no, hold on a second, I need more money up front, less money in the future because the future becomes more uncertain. And that's the big trade off for tech companies where they get really pummeled.
And we're now seeing on the other side, Walmart, Home Depot, Target and other big retailers integrating their supply chain to get product into stores. ... And so we're going to see a lot of investment, I think, by businesses that make product or deliver product to the consumer as they try and integrate the supply chain problem themselves.
There's a class of tech companies, right, like Amazon, sorry, like Microsoft, Oracle, Google, where you are actually seeing an Apple, you're getting dividends and you're getting share buybacks ... And I don't see how portfolios are going to shed those assets.
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October 16 2021, and this is the episode where the besties capitulate on inflation en masse - a 92-minute, almost pure-macro show and the densest tradeable episode of the 2021 backfill so far. Jason opens on the chip shortage (F-Series, Jeep Cherokee, Chevy Equinox; Cadillac pulling Autopilot out of the 2022 Escalade) and Chamath immediately breaks with consensus: this is not transitory, because non-manager hospitality/travel wages went from ~$20 to ~$33/hr and you cannot take that back, and Biden is personally phoning the Port of LA. Most of that talk lands as MENTIONS on stimulus-drives-inflation-2021 (E27, DBC) rather than new ideas - Chamath support 3, Sacks support 2 (5.1% CPI, 'highest since the late 70s, early 80s'; he opposed the idea in E27), Friedberg support 2 (the wage-price cycle 'can go the wrong direction'), Jason support 1 (a flip from his E27 oppose). Flag for the reviewer: Chamath claims 'in every episode before this, I was always consistently like, there is no inflation, you can fade the inflation trade' - our own ledger has him as the strength-3 PROPOSER of that idea in E27 and supporting again in E31 and E32, so the self-described reversal is revisionist, not a real flip; the mention is filed as support, not reversal. Four genuinely distinct threads earned their own ideas. (1) A rates call: Chamath says 'the Fed and the ECB are really raising. This time next year, they're probably in a really, really tighter posture' - and Sacks explicitly opposes it, arguing 'the degrees of action that the Fed can take here might be more constrained than people think.' (2) Sacks's fiscal-dominance thesis, the most substantive analysis in the episode: FRED debt/GDP through 120% toward 140%, Druckenmiller's warning that a 4.9% 10-year takes debt service to ~30% of GDP, so the real choice is austerity or monetising the debt and 'a runaway depreciation of the dollar.' Chamath signs on ('we're going to print money and we're going to pay ourselves') and so does Friedberg ('we're just going to keep inflating our way out of this mess', top marginal rate back to 70-80%, wealth taxes). (3) Sacks's stagflation/recession call, with receipts: Zack Kanter's port tweetstorm, longshoremen on two shifts with a two-hour break, Biden's 24/7 announcement having no date certain, 4 million people leaving the labour force in a month, Chinese coal restrictions throttling factories, and his own Tesla order slipping from two weeks to four months ('if companies cannot deliver their products, that could cause an economic recession'). Chamath table-pounds it - 'a period that will resemble the late 70s... you kind of want to be risk off and not own risk assets', with 'a year to 18 months to kind of clean this stuff up' - Jason leans in ('a tray full of champagne glasses on a boat in rough seas') and Friedberg is the lone oppose ('it's not like the world's going to end'). (4) The rate-driven de-rating of no-cash-flow tech: Chamath, 'Tech stocks in the fucking toilet... No bueno for no cash flow growth stocks', plus the promissory-note mechanism, and Friedberg supplies the dividend-yield math. This is a NEW idea rather than a mention on growth-multiple-compression-2021 because that E29 idea carried a 3-month horizon and its window closed 2021-07-17, well before this episode. Friedberg carves out the mature end (Microsoft, Oracle, Google, Apple - dividends and buybacks, 'I don't see how portfolios are going to shed those assets'), which is a support mention on top-tier-tech-decade-hold-2021, and he reprises his labour-cost-forces-automation thesis twice (fast food, local delivery, factory assembly, self-driving trucks, biomanufacturing, 3D printing), which gets its own idea. Reshoring takes two mentions on supply-chain-resilience-reshoring-2021: Friedberg at strength 3 with receipts (Amazon's 100k delivery hires, Walmart/Home Depot/Target insourcing logistics, Tesla's New Caledonia nickel deal) - notably a flip back to support after he opposed the same idea in E31 - plus Jason on TSMC's $7bn Japan fab. On the Ted Sarandos memo, the culture-war content was dropped and the only directional Netflix claim was captured: Chamath's, and it is a big one - never asterisk artistic freedom, therefore dominate content production, therefore cheapest content per unit, therefore lower churn, therefore 'they're going to get to a billion subscribers. It's just inevitable... over the next, you know, seven or eight years.' That is the only stated horizon framing anywhere in the episode that justifies a horizon above 12 months (84). Sacks's take on the memo was about too-big-to-cancel economics, not the stock, so it was not captured; Friedberg's mild demand-side lean was, at strength 1. Tether produced a clean, dated, falsifiable disagreement: Jason reads the CFTC order verbatim, cites the NY and Canada bans, co-mingled funds, 3-6% cash reserves and a DOJ wire probe, and calls it 'the beginning of the end, not the end of the beginning'; Sacks ('my guess is that Tether is solvent') and Chamath (a $42m fine is 'a tax payment' - 'either the CFTC completely got the fine wrong... or this was not nearly as big as you thought it was') both take the other side. Disclosed positioning is thin: Chamath's vague 'now I'm kind of positioning myself to hedge myself in this situation' and his admission that all four of them own nothing but risk assets - which is worth noting against his own SPAC complex, since ARKK-type no-cash-flow names are exactly what he just called toilet. Dropped for lack of market edge: the DeSantis fundraiser and 2024 talk (Sacks's one market-edge line, that Trump's Georgia meddling handed Democrats the majority and '4 to 6 trillion of spending and tax increases', is folded into the debt-service-trap thread), the Chappelle/cancel-culture and Girard segment, the FDA advisory-panel and aspirin/booster discussion, the Kyrie Irving vaccine debate, and both fan questions (quantum simulation of molecules, Haber-Bosch, replicators 100-120 years out, and career advice). LABELS: roster count Jason 141 / Sacks 88 / Chamath 80 / Friedberg 59, and content-verified clean on all four - Jason does the third-person intro and the 'I love you besties' sign-off, Chamath has the poker game, 'I said this on CNBC' and 'we're like the Warriors', Sacks names PayPal and Yammer as his two stints and is the one hosting the DeSantis fundraiser, Friedberg has the wife in labour with his third child plus Google and Monsanto. Six addressed-by-name handoffs ('I'll start with you, Chamath', 'All right, Friedberg', 'What do you think, Friedberg?', 'Chamath?', 'Friedberg, you want to tell us about the chaos at the FDA?', 'Which role has been your favorite to date, Friedberg?') all land on the correct label. One merged turn: the 53:24 turn labelled Friedberg opens with Jason's question 'Friedberg, what are your thoughts?' - split, with the quote taken only from the Friedberg segment. Read to the final turn at 1:32:24.