E67
E67: Revisiting Rogan, Canadian truckers' protest, fusion breakthrough, $MSFT's sales tactics
2022-02-12 spoken.md · speaker-labeled ▶ watch ← E66 all episodes E68 →
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ideas born
9
ideas moved
11
captures · 3 voices
2
dissenting
+60.6
conviction added
-112.5
decay · 106 silent
Every number here is replayed from score_events — the same ledger the pool ranks on. Decay is what the 106 ideas nobody mentioned gave up this week; it applies only when an episode is processed.
Tier crossings
conviction thresholds crossed by this episode — 65 / 45 / 15 · ideas born here show where they landed. why 65 isn't always green
▲ +12.2
🏛️ Antitrust breaks Apple's App Store gatekeeping and 30% take rate
ember
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watch
33.6 → 45.8
▲ +13.8
🌍 Stimulus trillions show up as real inflation (and CPI has been understating it)
ember
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watch
31.9 → 45.7
Who moved the board
each voice's force on conviction this episode — supports and opposes, weighted exactly as the replay applied them · share = % of this episode's movement
What got argued (9 ideas)
ordered by how hard each idea moved · quotes are verbatim from the transcript, timestamps deep-link into the episode
▲ DBC
🌍 Stimulus trillions show up as real inflation (and CPI has been understating it)
closed 41
CONTESTED
▲ +13.8
31.9 → 45.7
there was a really interesting chart on inflation that actually Zero Hedge tweeted. And I threw it up in the notes here where they said real hourly earnings are negative 1.7 percent. It's the 10th month in a row where US incomes aren't keeping up with inflation. ... Actually, as it turns out, it boosted inflation so much that people are feeling worse off, even though their wages went up slightly, because on a net basis, their earnings are down. So I just think it's a good reminder that you can't just like print wealth. You can't print your way to prosperity.
▼ AAPL
🏛️ Antitrust breaks Apple's App Store gatekeeping and 30% take rate
closed 25
CONTESTED
▲ +12.2
33.6 → 45.8
I think this is a first step towards a really interesting play that Microsoft could pull, which is essentially to scorch the earth of app stores, which is Google's and Apple's really big money printer, to make a completely open permissible platform with very little to no take rate. ... So Jason, back to why I think you can keep Apple in that basket of shorts. The competitive pressures are mounting by the moves of Microsoft that I think are easier for Google to copy and very difficult for companies like Apple to copy because it creates an incredible disincentive.
▲ GOOGL
📈 Asset-light mega-cap software is the inflation hedge
closed 0
CONTESTED
▲ +8.5
43.5 → 52.0
I do think, however, that this big tech spread trade is moving from a trade to an investment, actually. And that I didn't expect. ... I think that there is the potential, a small potential, that that's going from a trade to an investment, actually, a sustainable trend that you can bank on for several years. ... I think that Microsoft and Google are far and away the winners, far and away the winners.
▲ QQQ
📈 Tech drawdown is in the eighth inning - the bottom is close
closed 13
CONTESTED
▲ +8.4
32.9 → 41.4
what you saw over this past week is the bottoming out of a lot of these growth stocks that were beaten up, right? They rallied pretty significantly every day, three, four, five, six percent rallies. ... other names in big tech have rallied really well, including Microsoft.
▲ TLT
🏦 Inflation may not show up — breakevens are rolling over
closed 19
CONTESTED
▲ +7.7
41.3 → 49.0
one of the most interesting things is the rate of change of this inflation was actually lower month over month. And so if you think about it that way, we had a bad CPI print, but it's actually not going up as much. And in fact, it's starting to trail off and a lot of economists now forecast basically this inflation peaking or already having peaked over the last few weeks.
▼ SPY
🌍 Supply-chain crunch tips the US into 1970s-style stagflation next year
closed 73
CONTESTED
▲ +6.3
79.2 → 85.5
the University of Michigan Consumer Sentiment was released, I think it was today this morning, and it shows exactly what he's saying, which is that, you know, consumers' propensity and confidence in the economy has been falling off a cliff. You know, the month over month change was almost, it was down 8.2%. The year over year change is down almost 20%. ... But I think, Sacks, you're right, on the margin, I think the risk is towards a recession, because people don't see this.
we've been talking on the show for the last, I'd say, a couple of months about balancing the risk of recession versus the risk of inflation. Inflation, I think, has gotten slightly worse. The print went from, the last print was like 7.1% now to 7.5%. ... But the risk of recession, I think, is increasing because what's keeping this economy going is the consumer. And if the consumer sentiment now all of a sudden is tanking, and people feel poor because of inflation, I just, you know, now the risks are starting to become more balanced.
▼ META
🤖 The metaverse/Web3 label is empty hype — Meta's pivot is the loser trade
closed 41
CONTESTED
▲ +3.0
77.8 → 80.8
what folks on Wall Street have been telling me is that, you know, Facebook has become what's called a funding short, meaning there is no bid to buy that from institutional owners. They'd rather on the margin sell it to generate the cash to then take and invest in other things.
I mentioned to you guys at the end of last year that I made a bet on energy stocks. And the reason I made a bet on energy stocks is because some of the breakthroughs that we're seeing in decarbonization and renewable energy has driven a reduction in capital improvements across energy infrastructure. ... there's a lot of leverage that energy producers have over those that are the consumers, as we're seeing currently with the Russia, Ukraine, Europe crisis, and so on. ... And I do think that some of this global tension stuff we're seeing is only going to drive it up for a while.
we do have some constraint supply for the amount that we need to get back to the level of production we had pre-pandemic. So we are going to have some sustained energy prices. ... And so I'm not a big buyer of this trade, to be honest with you, Friedberg. I think that it works in the short term. I don't think it's an investment. I think at some point, you're going to have to make a decision about what your view on energy is.
▼ JETS
🌍 Delta is not the last one — more variants this fall, a tough winter
closed 0
CONTESTED
▼ +0.0
0.0 → 0.0
Episode digest
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A lighter episode than the title suggests on the tradeable axis, but the last twenty-five minutes carry real weight. NEW: nothing — zero new ideas, because the two headline segments deliberately refused an instrument. Friedberg's fusion science corner (the JET record of 59 megawatts for five seconds on 2022-02-09, beating the same UK agency's 1997 record of 16MW) is framed at 100-to-200-year scale — abundant free energy in the back half of this century, nucleosynthesis turning water into rare earths in the 22nd century, ITER's 500MW demo online around 2027 on $50-60B from 35 nations, Commonwealth Fusion's $1.8B raise. When Jason asks 'just tell us where to place the bet,' Friedberg answers 'There's nowhere yet' and Sacks kills it outright: 'I don't place bets on things that take 100 years... I'm missing things that might materialize in four years.' Digest-only by the besties' own admission; note the fission framing here (uranium/plutonium as dangerous and very expensive) is scene-setting for fusion, not a bearish-uranium call. The Canadian truckers segment is 40 minutes of civil-liberties argument with no market edge extracted: Jason reads the Ambassador Bridge blockade and Ontario's state of emergency as news, and nobody discusses auto production, just-in-time inventory or a single supply-chain consequence; there is no debanking or account-freezing content at all (the GoFundMe seizure and Emergencies Act were still days away), so financial-deplatforming gets nothing. Sacks' read is political rather than tradeable — the trucker convoy exposes a Democratic schism between the professional-elite COVID dead-enders and the working class, non-white working-class share moved 18 points to Republicans in eight years, and if Biden mishandles it 'it's going to be the end of his presidency.' REINFORCED, and this is the episode's real content: Chamath upgrades his big-tech spread trade from a trade to an investment, disclosing that Wall Street told him Facebook has become a 'funding short' — no institutional bid, sold on the margin to fund purchases of beaten-up growth names — and calls Microsoft and Google 'far and away the winners, far and away the winners,' a trend 'you can bank on for several years'; Jason recaps the basket as long MSFT/GOOGL, short AMZN/FB/NFLX and Chamath does not correct him. The same turn reinforces his three-week-old eighth-inning call: growth stocks bottomed out over the past week on repeated three-to-six-percent daily rallies. The $MSFT sales-tactics thread is not the Teams-versus-Slack bundling argument the title implies — it is Chamath reading Microsoft's Washington charm offensive on the $75B Activision deal (Brad Smith: 'we are more focused on adapting to regulation than fighting against it') as a Cortez burn-the-boats scorched-earth play to zero out app-store take rates, Google's and Apple's 'really big money printer.' Google can copy it; Apple structurally cannot, which is 'why I think you can keep Apple in that basket of shorts' — a competitive rather than antitrust route to the same broken 30%. Macro splits cleanly: Chamath says the CPI rate of change rolled over month-on-month and inflation has peaked or already peaked, while Sacks brings a Zero Hedge chart showing real hourly earnings at -1.7% for a tenth straight month and lands on 'you can't print your way to prosperity.' Both then converge on recession over inflation as the marginal risk — Sacks because the consumer is the only thing holding the economy up and sentiment is tanking, Chamath backing it with a same-morning University of Michigan print down 8.2% month-on-month and ~20% year-on-year. That lean sits directly against Jason's E61 us-boom-2022 annual prediction, though nobody names it. TRASHED: Chamath tells Friedberg to his face 'I'm not a big buyer of this trade' on energy stocks — it works short term, it is not an investment — while simultaneously conceding constrained supply means sustained energy prices; Friedberg concedes 'I don't think this is a long term trade' but holds the position on global tension. DISCLOSED POSITIONS: Friedberg long energy stocks (restated from year-end, thesis is CapEx underinvestment plus producer leverage in the Russia/Ukraine/Europe crisis); Chamath long the MSFT/GOOGL versus AAPL/AMZN/FB spread and short Apple; Chamath discloses Daniel Ek is a personal friend before praising Spotify. On Rogan/Spotify there is no directional SPOT claim to capture — Chamath and Sacks both applaud Ek for refusing to deplatform and redirecting an equivalent $100M to underrepresented creators, Chamath declares Rogan 'got off the hook,' and Jason argues Spotify is de facto a publisher by his pay/promote/produce test and that Ek is being intellectually dishonest, but nobody prices any of it. If the E066 session coined a Rogan/Spotify idea, these four statements belong on it. LABEL ANOMALIES: none material. All four hosts present with normal counts (Jason 107, Chamath 71, Sacks 58, Friedberg 34) and content-verified — Jason does his own third-person intro and the besties outro, Chamath is the Canadian with the Liberal Party/Pierre Trudeau receipts plus the Warriors game and the Ek friendship, Sacks carries Girard-via-Thiel and 'Nobody needs your outro, Jason,' Friedberg is the sultan-of-science fusion monologue. Every addressed-by-name handoff resolves to the right next label (Jason says 'Friedberg' at 9:14, 33:12 and 45:00; 'Sacks, what are your thoughts' at 14:09; Chamath asks 'Sacks, what do you think about inflation' at 1:03:44). Two cosmetic artifacts: the Sacks turn at 19:20 opens with 'Sacks.' because Jason's handoff cue got absorbed into it, and the two-word fragment at 1:12 labelled Sacks ('I'm not.') reads like Chamath. Neither affects an attribution.