E93: Twitter whistleblower, cloud security vulnerabilities, student debt forgiveness & more
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Tier crossings
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Who moved the board
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What got argued (7 ideas)
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Zatko's allegation that a foreign intelligence agent sat inside Twitter with unsupervised access — plus warrantless big-tech data hand-overs generally — reframes the hyperscaler cloud as a honeypot liability. Jason's call is that people and companies start moving off the cloud into self-hosted or encrypted storage where the provider has no keys; Chamath says the lack of privacy is what may actually unwind twenty years of cloud push; Friedberg extends it to decentralized/local-first architectures winning in the market. The trade is that privacy becomes a paid consumer and enterprise category rather than a free-ad-model afterthought.
And that that fundamental principle may actually come to kind of bear over the next couple of years and decades that that model is more appropriate for us, for me. And therefore, the services that are built that way are going to win in the market.
All three of Friedberg, Sacks and Chamath make the same structural point: the $300B of forgiveness does not touch eligibility rules, so the federal loan spigot keeps flowing to the schools. Friedberg's version is that the money already ended up in university endowments and the pockets of for-profit educational institutions; Sacks' is that the more government subsidizes something the more providers raise the price, so tuition goes up; Chamath's is that colleges now assume it happens again and keep jacking up tuition. The read-through is bullish the education providers that harvest Title IV loan dollars.
the ultimate beneficiary of that bill, while we all might want to say it's the people that are getting debt relief that have taken out these student loans, that money was transferred to somewhere. And you know where it was transferred to? University endowments and the pockets of for-profit educational institutions.
Friedberg's science corner off the Cell paper on artificial sweeteners: sequencing a gut biome collapsed from ~$1,000 to ~$5, which has triggered an explosion of microbiome research, and the gut-brain axis means disease and neurological conditions can be altered by changing the biome. Fecal transplants are showing curative signal in MS, Parkinson's, IBS and colitis (Chamath), while single-strain probiotics do not inoculate and do not work — the winners are whole-ecosystem approaches: live consortia, FMT-derived pills, gut-derived small molecules turned into drugs, and feedstock modulation.
So guys, there's a known principle that's really deeply studied now in neurology, in neuroscience, called the gut-brain axis, that you can actually profoundly affect disease and the condition of the brain and neuro conditions by changing the gut biome.
But we are finding now that you can take feces from healthy individuals that have good gut biome and good bacterial counts, and if you put it, inject it into people that are suffering from a bunch of different diseases, it actually is looking like it's curative. So Parkinson's, MS, IBS, colitis.
Chamath's read of the Delaware specific-performance fight after the Zatko whistleblower dump: the most likely outcome is a settlement where Musk pays the economic difference between the tape and $54.20, or closes at a materially lower price (the options market implies ~$51). Sacks' version is that the whistleblower is a windfall for Elon's case. Either branch means Musk spends well under $44B, which lifts the forced-selling overhang on his funding leg.
Sacks' legal call: forgiveness by executive order runs straight into the Appropriations Clause — no money shall be drawn from the Treasury but in consequence of appropriations made by law — so it gets challenged, reaches the Supreme Court, and follows Biden's vaccine mandate and eviction moratorium into being ruled unconstitutional. If it dies, the $300B transfer never lands and the loan balances (and the servicers carrying them) survive.
So I don't understand how Biden can even do this by an executive order. I expect this will be challenged and taken to the Supreme Court. And I think there's a very good chance that will end up like Biden's other executive orders that were ruled unconstitutional.
Chamath's take after the artificial-sweetener paper: there is a scam being run on people who want to be healthy, and Oatly is his named example — read the ingredient list and it is not obviously healthier than milk. Bearish the premium multiple that listed plant-based and better-for-you brands get for a health claim they cannot substantiate. Friedberg pushes back that everything is chemicals and he could argue it both ways.
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Diarization note: the fourth label in this file is "Erik Friedberg", a name that does not exist on the show, but the content is unambiguously David Friedberg (duty-of-care board analysis, the SuperGut/Unique disclosure, the science corner) — canonicalized to Friedberg, all other labels content-checked clean, Jason top talker as usual. New this week: Chamath's Delaware call that Elon most likely settles for the economic difference or re-trades below $54.20 (the options market implying ~$51), with Sacks calling the Zatko dump a windfall for Elon's case — Chamath's call went on to be wrong when Musk closed at full price in October. The Twitter security dump also spawned a privacy thesis all three of Jason, Chamath and Friedberg backed: the cloud is a honeypot, people start paying for encryption, self-hosting and decentralized/local-first services. Student-debt forgiveness got trashed unanimously but produced three separate market reads — it lands as inflationary stimie checks (attached to the existing E078 stimulus idea, Chamath quoting Bloomberg at +0.1-0.3% inflation), it keeps the tuition gravy train running because the money ends up in endowments and for-profit schools (Friedberg table-pounding, Sacks and Chamath backing), and Sacks separately predicted the executive order gets struck down as unconstitutional on Appropriations Clause grounds — which SCOTUS did in June 2023, inside the window. Science corner turned the Cell sweetener paper into a microbiome-as-therapeutic-platform thesis (Friedberg: probiotics do not work, whole-ecosystem approaches do; Chamath: FMT looks curative in MS, Parkinson's, IBS, colitis), and Chamath closed by calling the health halo on Oatly a scam while Friedberg argued the other side.