E110

E110: 2023 Bestie Predictions!

2023-01-06 spoken.md · speaker-labeled ▶ watch ← E109 all episodes E111 →

14
ideas born
14
ideas moved
24
captures · 4 voices
4
dissenting
+546.6
conviction added
-115.7
decay · 97 silent

Every number here is replayed from score_events — the same ledger the pool ranks on. Decay is what the 97 ideas nobody mentioned gave up this week; it applies only when an episode is processed.

Tier crossings

conviction thresholds crossed by this episode — 65 / 45 / 15 · ideas born here show where they landed. why 65 isn't always green

▲ +68.9 🌍 The US consumer taps out in 2023 — recession unavoidable born at green threshold 68.9 still dormant — green gate not met
▲ +54.5 🏦 Cash + front-end T-bills are the place to be in 2023 born at watch 54.5
▲ +48.3 🤖 Google Search is 2023's biggest business loser as AI answers erode it born at watch 48.3
▲ +47.6 📈 Office commercial real estate reckoning — SF towers go to the banks born at watch 47.6
▲ +47.4 ⚡ Energy is overheated after 2022 and underperforms in 2023 born at watch 47.4
▲ +38.9 📈 Gig/supply platforms win 2023 as unemployment gets sticky born at ember 38.9
▲ +37.5 ⚡ US natural gas industry wins 2023 — Europe is now a captive LNG customer born at ember 37.5
▲ +35.0 🏦 Junk debt is 2023's most pressured asset class born at ember 35.0
▲ +35.0 🏦 Inflation stays sticky in 2023 — the wage chapter born at ember 35.0
▲ +34.7 📈 Infrastructure-spend compounders are the best asset of 2023 born at ember 34.7
▲ +31.4 🏦 2023 is the year debt markets unravel — EM sovereigns first born at ember 31.4
▲ +30.4 🤖 OpenAI is 2023's biggest winner — Microsoft deal inevitable born at ember 30.4
▲ +28.9 🤖 Tech has another tough year in 2023 born at ember 28.9
▼ +8.3 🌍 2023 marks the beginning of the end of dollar reserve dominance born at dormant 8.3

Kill dates that landed since E109

3 hit · 2 partial · 2 miss — windows that closed after 2022-12-24 and up to 2023-01-06, auto-scored against price data and never hand-set. verdict · R · α

ideaverdictRαclosed
🏛️ California wealth tax fails to pass — but the proposal alone drives the exodus PARTIAL +6.8% +8.8 2023-01-01
🌍 American exceptionalism soars and the economy booms in 2022 MISS -33.2% -14.8 2022-12-29
🛢️ Battery metals are the best-performing asset of 2022 MISS -29.2% -10.8 2022-12-29
🪙 Crypto bubble bursts in 2022 — 90% of projects blow up HIT +64.2% +82.6 2022-12-29
🌍 Fed ending QE drains liquidity-dependent assets in 2022 HIT +66.8% +85.2 2022-12-29
⚡ Global conflict era begins — energy and defense outperform HIT +62.7% +81.1 2022-12-29
📈 Visa/Mastercard at peak market cap — Web3 rails eat the 2-3% tax PARTIAL +3.9% +22.3 2022-12-29

Who moved the board

each voice's force on conviction this episodesupports and opposes, weighted exactly as the replay applied them · share = % of this episode's movement

Sacks
Sacks
5 captures · 27% of movement · 4 ideas born
+161.2 / -13.5 → net +147.7
Chamath
Chamath
8 captures · 27% of movement · 4 ideas born
+165.7 / -8.7 → net +157.1
Friedberg
Friedberg
5 captures · 25% of movement · 4 ideas born
+163.0 → net +163.0
Jason
Jason
6 captures · 21% of movement · 2 ideas born
+106.6 / -27.8 → net +78.8

What got argued (14 ideas)

ordered by how hard each idea moved · quotes are verbatim from the transcript, timestamps deep-link into the episode

NEW XLY 🌍 The US consumer taps out in 2023 — recession unavoidable closed 4 CONTESTED ▲ +68.9 0.0 → 68.9

Record credit-card debt at ~20% rates, 7% mortgages, falling savings and spreading layoffs finally break the consumer; a 2023 recession is unavoidable and consumer credit hits a wall.

plays XLY ·primary XRT evals 2024-01-06
Sacks
Sacks support ×2 annual_prediction 12mo horizon ▶ 32:15
my biggest loser for business in 23 is the consumer. I just don't understand how the consumer isn't going to finally tap out ... don't understand how we're going to avoid a recession. ... I think the recession is here. It's just very unequally...
Jason
Jason support ×2 sentiment 6mo horizon ▶ 33:39
buy now, pay later, that's a category starting to break. Credit card debt, ... people's savings are going down. So the consumer's back has been broken. I think we're just going to feel it in the first and second quarter.
Friedberg
Friedberg support ×2 annual_prediction 12mo horizon ▶ 1:12:01
we're going to run into a real wall with respect to consumer credit ... consumers are not going to be able to meet their debt obligations. And it's going to be really ugly. ... the stretching is going to snap this year.
NEW BIL 🏦 Cash + front-end T-bills are the place to be in 2023 closed 36 ▲ +54.5 0.0 → 54.5

With chop and uncertainty everywhere, T-bills through 2-year notes yielding ~5% 'risk free' beat trying to pick the bottom — stay resilient, collect the coupon, keep powder dry.

plays BIL ·primary SHY evals 2024-01-06
Chamath
Chamath support ×2 annual_prediction 12mo horizon ▶ 1:03:23
I would have a combination of cash and the front end of the yield curve. So T-bills all the way up to two-year bonds. ... probably by the end of this year, 5% pretty safely ... I would rather miss the first 10 or 15% of a rally
Sacks
Sacks support ×2 annual_prediction 12mo horizon ▶ 1:04:31
Why wouldn't you just put all your money in short-term T-bills? You earn five, five and a half percent risk free. Like, set it and forget it. ... capital flows are moving hugely right now from equities into bonds,
NEW GOOGL 🤖 Google Search is 2023's biggest business loser as AI answers erode it closed 18 CONTESTED ▲ +48.3 0.0 → 48.3

ChatGPT-class models converge on the same training data, so high-quality answers become available in many places; Google loses 10-15% of search usage and takes a material, measurable hit to profitability and engagement in 2023.

plays GOOGL ·primary evals 2024-01-06
Chamath
Chamath support ×2 annual_prediction 12mo horizon ▶ 37:19
the biggest potential business loser this year is Google Search as measured by pure profitability and engagement. ... will end up being able to get high-quality search results from many places ... Google could lose 10% or 15% of usage to all these other sites,
Jason
Jason support ×1 sentiment ▶ 39:46
Then I went with you, Chamath. Number four, Google. My God. They got so many headwinds against them with this ChatGPT,
NEW BXP 📈 Office commercial real estate reckoning — SF towers go to the banks closed 62 ▲ +47.6 0.0 → 47.6

27%+ vacancy, remote work, layoffs and variable-rate debt push office towers (San Francisco worst) into bank ownership and fire sales; B-REIT redemption gates are the canary — the CRE reckoning begins in 2023.

plays BXP ·primary VNO evals 2024-01-06
Sacks
Sacks support ×2 annual_prediction 12mo horizon ▶ 1:09:23
office towers in San Francisco are, that is, some serious toxic debt, 27 percent vacancy rates and growing ... virtually all of the San Francisco downtown is going to be owned by the banks soon ... There's going to be some major fire sales.
Chamath
Chamath support ×2 sentiment 12mo horizon ▶ 1:10:05
such a massive amount of redemptions that they had to close redemptions ... we may finally start to see the beginning of the reckoning in commercial real estate, ... the banks could just go crazy and take ownership of these things.
NEW XLE ⚡ Energy is overheated after 2022 and underperforms in 2023 closed 8 CONTESTED ▲ +47.4 0.0 → 47.4

Everybody rushed into energy in 2022; with recession lowering consumption, energy has a poor 2023.

plays XLE ·primary evals 2024-01-06
Jason
Jason support ×2 annual_prediction 12mo horizon ▶ 1:07:50
it just feels like everybody rushed into it in 2022 So it feels like it's overheated. And if we are in a recession, people might lower consumption in terms of energy
Chamath
Chamath support ×2 sentiment 12mo horizon ▶ 1:08:11
I think energy will have a really shit year.
NEW UBER 📈 Gig/supply platforms win 2023 as unemployment gets sticky closed 16 ▲ +38.9 0.0 → 38.9

As layoffs pile up, supply-constrained gig and entrepreneur platforms (Uber, Airbnb, DoorDash, Etsy) finally get the workers/hosts they always lacked while cutting their own costs — big beneficiaries of the downturn.

plays UBER ·primary ABNB DASH evals 2024-01-06
Jason
Jason support ×2 annual_prediction 12mo horizon ▶ 29:13
I think the door dashes, Airbnbs, Ubers, Etsy's of the world who need entrepreneurs, they need workers, they need supply. They've always been supply constrained. As unemployment becomes, let's call it what it is, sticky, you're going to see a lot more people participating in gig platforms or entrepreneurial platforms that enable them to make money. So I think they will be huge beneficiaries, especially if they continue to lay off employees like door dash and Airbnb did to right size their businesses.
NEW LNG ⚡ US natural gas industry wins 2023 — Europe is now a captive LNG customer closed 9 ▲ +37.5 0.0 → 37.5

Europe permanently replaced Russian pipeline gas with US LNG (terminals fast-tracked, Nord Stream gone); America's natural gas industry is the big business winner of 2023.

plays LNG ·primary FCG evals 2024-01-06
Sacks
Sacks support ×2 annual_prediction 12mo horizon ▶ 26:23
My answer for the big business winner of the year is America's natural gas industry... Europe rapidly built terminals to receive liquefied gas... Europe is now completely dependent on American natural gas... a pretty impressive win for the American natural gas industry.
NEW HYG 🏦 Junk debt is 2023's most pressured asset class closed 16 ▲ +35.0 0.0 → 35.0

Variable-rate loans repricing from 5-6% coupons to 11-14% mean a wave of restructurings and filings — high-yield credit is the biggest pressured asset class of 2023.

plays HYG ·primary evals 2024-01-06
Chamath
Chamath support ×2 annual_prediction 12mo horizon ▶ 1:08:11
probably the biggest asset class that is going to get pressured is going to be junk debt. ... variable rate loans, when rates are at five and six percent, ... 11, 12, 13, 14 percent, coupons, a bunch of companies will have trouble meeting their debt obligations and
NEW TLT 🏦 Inflation stays sticky in 2023 — the wage chapter closed 8 CONTESTED ▲ +35.0 0.0 → 35.0

Inflation's third chapter is wage inflation (unionization, minimum-wage hikes, low labor participation): it does not fall off a cliff the way consensus expects, keeping rates higher for longer — bearish long-duration bonds.

plays TLT ·primary evals 2024-01-06
Chamath
Chamath support ×2 annual_prediction 12mo horizon ▶ 55:35
Inflation, which people expect to fall off a cliff, doesn't fall off a cliff as fast or as meaningfully as people want... the pendulum is swinging very markedly away from capital and towards labor... my big contrarian wager for this year is wage inflation that keeps inflation not going down as much as people want.
NEW TMO 📈 Infrastructure-spend compounders are the best asset of 2023 closed 10 ▲ +34.7 0.0 → 34.7

Security-driven reshoring in semis, energy and pharma means multi-year capex flows to semicap equipment (KLA/Lam/AMAT), oil services (SLB/Baker Hughes), Deere/CAT, and pharma infrastructure (Thermo Fisher/Danaher/Honeywell) — cash-flowing compounders with high-teens ROIC beat 5% T-bills.

plays TMO ·primary AMAT SLB evals 2024-01-06
Friedberg
Friedberg support ×2 annual_prediction 12mo horizon ▶ 1:05:00
I'll say what's an important trend I've seen across these companies, Danaher, Honeywell, Thermo Fisher, they buy small companies, they pay very little, and they immediately get massive return on invested capital, like they're in the high teens. So why get 5% on T-bills when you can get high teens, ROIC, on the management teams running these incredible platforms? So that's where I'm most excited for this year.
NEW EMB 🏦 2023 is the year debt markets unravel — EM sovereigns first closed 8 ▲ +31.4 0.0 → 31.4

With $235T of global debt, slowing growth and rising rates, emerging-market sovereign debt starts to unwind in 2023 and the IMF becomes the (blamed) firefighter.

plays EMB ·primary evals 2024-01-06
Friedberg
Friedberg support ×2 annual_prediction 12mo horizon ▶ 17:55
I think this is the year where a lot of the debt markets start to unravel. ... the world has too much debt and not enough growth to cover the cost of debt. That's it.
NEW MSFT 🤖 OpenAI is 2023's biggest winner — Microsoft deal inevitable closed 32 CONTESTED ▲ +30.4 -0.0 → 30.4

OpenAI becomes the AWS of AI or lands a massive Microsoft deal ('a billion dollar plus investment this year is inevitable', AI-powered Bing) and exits 2023 as one of the valley's top companies; at the $29B tender it 'could be a $300 billion company'. OpenAI is private — MSFT is the tradeable expression.

plays MSFT ·primary evals 2024-01-06
Friedberg
Friedberg support ×3 annual_prediction 12mo horizon ▶ 24:25
My big bet is OpenAI. It's just way too obvious to be anything else this year. ... it's inevitable they're going to get a billion dollar plus investment this year. ... That could be a $300 billion company. That's a 10X.
Chamath
Chamath oppose ×1 sentiment ▶ 1:28:43
unsupervised learning models, if you run them on the same training set, will converge to the same answer. ... to be really defensible, you have to get there in a unique way. ... you think Google is sitting on their hands?
Jason
Jason oppose ×2 explicit_prediction ▶ 1:30:31
They don't have the rights to the data they built the training set on. And the second they commercialize it... they're going to get sued into oblivion. I predict sued into oblivion.
NEW QQQ 🤖 Tech has another tough year in 2023 closed 6 CONTESTED ▲ +28.9 0.0 → 28.9

Markets pay for over-earning, not value to society; tech under-earns and has a tough 2023.

plays QQQ ·primary evals 2024-01-06
Chamath
Chamath support ×1 annual_prediction 12mo horizon ▶ 1:08:11
markets do not give you credit for the value in society. ... they'll pull it all back when they think ... in that lens, I think that tech will have a tough year.
NEW UUP 🌍 2023 marks the beginning of the end of dollar reserve dominance closed 9 CONTESTED ▲ +8.3 0.0 → 8.3

Petro-yuan trades (Saudi-China), a coalescing non-dollar bloc and US debt loads make the dollar start trading like a risk asset rather than the risk-free reserve — the erosion begins in 2023.

plays UUP ·primary evals 2024-01-06
Friedberg
Friedberg support ×2 annual_prediction 12mo horizon ▶ 58:03
it could be that the US dollar coming out of 2023 starts to trade more like a risk asset and less like a risk-free asset. ... maybe this year marks the beginning of the end of the US dollar as the kind of global de facto reserve currency based on some of these big trades
Jason
Jason oppose ×2 sentiment ▶ 1:00:06
I take the exact opposite of your contrarian belief. I believe American exceptionalism continues to soar, as Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, ... are going to stab each other in the back before they change the world or move the currency.
Sacks
Sacks oppose ×2 sentiment ▶ 1:00:53
would love to get off of the dollar ... But I don't think they're anywhere close to be able to do that yet.

Episode digest

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The 2023 predictions episode, taped days after ChatGPT's $29B tender broke — the besties are maximally bearish at what proves to be the bottom. Consensus calls: consumer taps out/recession unavoidable (Sacks, Jason, Friedberg all in), T-bills as the asset of the year (Chamath + Sacks), CRE office reckoning (Sacks's SF-towers-to-the-banks + Chamath's B-REIT canary). Chamath fades tech, energy and junk debt and makes his contrarian wage-inflation-stays-sticky wager; Jason and Chamath both call energy overheated (fading Friedberg's 2022 winner); Friedberg's OpenAI-is-obvious call (MSFT-deal-inevitable) draws opposes from Jason ('sued into oblivion') and Chamath (training-data convergence kills the moat) — while Chamath separately names Google Search the year's biggest loser to AI answers. Friedberg's dollar-erosion contrarian bet is opposed by both Jason and Sacks ('America is on turbo'). Skipped as untradeable: Chamath's Relativity Space book-talk and Starlink-IPO-at-$75B deal prediction, Friedberg's Apple-buys-Disney/car-company wildcard and MBS/petro-yuan geopolitics, Jason's Amazon-health-pillar and TikTok-divestiture M&A calls, Sacks's Putin-Xi trillion-dollar deal, California/SF budget crisis, Trump-influence-wanes and Biden-Zelensky-rift politics, and Friedberg's cell/gene-therapy trend (no instrument named). Label quality: all four besties individually labeled and accurate; two trivial intra-turn merges in banter (a question stitched into the answerer's turn), no capture-worthy content affected.