🌍 Fed ending QE drains liquidity-dependent assets in 2022
When the Fed stops QE (~March 2022), asset classes that fed on excess liquidity — collectibles, art, crypto, high-multiple growth stocks — reprice down; markets have priced rate hikes but not the liquidity withdrawal itself.
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CONVICTION
peaked 94.4 GREEN
WATCH
band
▼ SHORT ARKK
expression · bearish macro
RIGHT
result · return +66.8% · vs SPY +85.2%
2022-12-29
born 2021-12-29 (E61) → window closed
⚠ CONFLICTING IDEA ON THE SAME TICKER
— the board is arguing with itself; net it out (ticker view →)
ARKK ·
It's 1997-98, not 1999 — the melt-up has years left
LONG
GREEN 75.6
← stronger than this idea (74.9)
⚖ Why this result
fully deterministic — computed from daily closes on the scoring date; nothing below is editable or hand-set
- Window: 2021-12-29 → 2022-12-29 — first mention + 12-month horizon, then the window locks.
- The call: ▼ SHORT ARKK (primary play). ARKK fell 66.8% over the window → return (sign flipped for a SHORT) = +66.8% (the call made money).
- Benchmark: holding SPY over the same window returned -18.4%
→ vs SPY = +66.8 − (-18.4) = +85.2%
— what this call made or lost against just owning the index. This is the number the result uses.
Direction-only read: +48.4% — did ARKK move the predicted way relative to the market. The two only differ on a SHORT: this call beat the index outright.
- Rule fired:
▶ RIGHT — return ≥ +10% AND beat SPY by 5+ ✓ (return 66.8, vs SPY 85.2)· HALF — return ≥ +5% OR beat SPY at all· WRONG — everything else
- Credit: supporters of a RIGHT earn 1.0 each, opposers the opposite — this feeds the scoreboard. supported: Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner, Chamath, Friedberg, Sacks
Conviction timeline
bands: green ≥ 65 · watch ≥ 45 · ember ≥ 15
Plays vs SPY · % since first mention (2021-12-29)
Plays
Mention log newest first
Friedberg
macro 46% · n=40
· E94 (2022-09-01) · sentiment · strength 2
▶ 5:53
SUPPORT
“And I will also say that in the last year, with the liquidity that we saw the last two years, it leached into the stock market where there's supposed to be more rational behavior that ultimately the cash flows of an asset you're buying should generate more for you than the money you're spending to buy that asset.”
Chamath
macro 53% · n=47
· E89 (2022-07-29) · explicit_prediction · strength 3
▶ 12:07
SUPPORT
“we have not seen an era without federally introduced spending, without federally introduced forms of quantitative easing since the great financial crisis. So we have been propping up our economy for 14 years straight now. So we have distorted the prices of bonds and fixed income. We've distorted the prices of equities. We've we've created an asset bubble in crypto out of nowhere.”
Chamath
macro 53% · n=47
· E85 (2022-06-30) · explicit_prediction · strength 3
▶ 1:15:20
SUPPORT
“we need to reset supply and demand by taking $30 trillion out of global markets ... And we're the only one that's doing quantitative tightening right now. The ECB hasn't even started taking all this crazy money out.”
Chamath
macro 53% · n=47
· E84 (2022-06-24) · explicit_prediction · strength 3
▶ 45:16
SUPPORT
“the reason the stock market went up dollar for dollar was actually tied to the growth in the M2 money supply. The correlation was.92. So for every dollar that the Fed printed, the stock market went up by 92 cents. ... it stands to reason that if the Fed is going to take three to five trillion dollars of value out, then we have to rerate the equity markets by three to five trillion dollars at a minimum.”
Brad Gerstner
(regular guest ×1.0)
macro 50% · n=10
· E81 (2022-05-23) · sentiment · strength 2
▶ 7:22
SUPPORT
“We destroyed 15 trillion of household net worth in the last five months. ... So the Fed has done exactly what it wanted to do. It ruined all the SPACs. It ruined everything. It took all the juice.”
Bill Gurley
(regular guest ×1.0)
macro: 1 resolved, unproven
· E81 (2022-05-23) · explicit_prediction · strength 2
▶ 4:08
SUPPORT
“we basically had a mini pullback in March of 2020, but then the Fed hit so hard that things just blasted off again. ... Now, you guys have talked about this, but that tool is not in toolbox anymore.”
Chamath
macro 53% · n=47
· E80 (2022-05-13) · explicit_prediction · strength 3
▶ 16:59
SUPPORT
“the process of quantitative tightening, which is the Fed's mechanism of removing liquidity, is going to start now to the tune of about $90 billion a month, but to run off all the money that they printed will still take three years”
Friedberg
macro 46% · n=40
· E80 (2022-05-13) · sentiment · strength 3
▶ 5:00
SUPPORT
“And so, when interest rates got hiked, it was like, all that money is coming back out of the system. And it was like this whooshing sound, like the airlock got opened, and all the cash came back out. And as a result, the bubble is just all deflated.”
Sacks
macro 56% · n=40
· E78 (2022-04-30) · explicit_prediction · strength 2
▶ 43:49
SUPPORT
“they have really magnified this because you had the Fed for years maintain interest rates really too low and doing quantitative easing during a boom. And then the federal government was printing trillions and trillions of dollars, and they didn't stop. ... But then last year they printed that last two trillion, and that's what set off this wave of inflation.”
Chamath
macro 53% · n=47
· E78 (2022-04-30) · explicit_prediction · strength 2
▶ 42:40
SUPPORT
“Now the problem is what that does is that removes liquidity from the market. ... And when you remove liquidity from a market, you actually make it a little bit more fragile, a little bit more precarious, a little bit more price sensitive. ... And so it puts us in a very tough situation when the economy is slowing, when these guys may be raising rates, and then at the same time removing money from the system, it may be a lot for all of us to handle.”
Chamath
macro 53% · n=47
· E75 (2022-04-09) · explicit_prediction · strength 3
▶ 10:26
SUPPORT
“we're going to move by 50 basis point increments for the foreseeable two or three rate hikes, and we're going to start quantitative tightening ... what they're going to do is about $95 billion a month of the opposite action, which means they're taking money out of the system ... you probably are going to see them, you know, even ratchet up quantitative tightening until there is a bit of a bloodletting in the equity market. They need to see that the markets crack.”
Sacks
macro 56% · n=40
· E74 (2022-04-01) · explicit_prediction · strength 3
▶ 14:34
SUPPORT
“By the way, that's what caused a lot of the problems is we flooded the zone with liquidity. Now, we're trying to mop that up with interest rate increases, that's slowing down the economy. ... And this is the classic hangover after the party. They put the punch bowl out for way too long, and now we're all going to pay the price for it.”
Brad Gerstner
(regular guest ×1.0)
macro 50% · n=10
· E73 (2022-03-26) · explicit_prediction · strength 3
▶ 52:20
SUPPORT
“the number one question I get from GPs, venture capitalists and others right now is when are we going to bounce back? Let me be absolutely clear. There is no bouncing back to where we were the last 18 months. That was the outlier. That was the make-believe.”
Sacks
macro 56% · n=40
· E73 (2022-03-26) · sentiment · strength 2
▶ 11:11
SUPPORT
“If you look at, you know, during the two-year period during COVID, the multiples had risen to some insane level, right? And because of all the liquidity that had been pumped into the system. So as soon as you saw the charts that way, you could just see where things were headed, which is back to historical averages.”
Chamath
macro 53% · n=47
· E71 (2022-03-05) · explicit_prediction · strength 2
▶ 20:39
OPPOSE
“if these shocks are really, really, really meaningful globally, I think you're going to see the Federal Reserve and the ECB and the Bank of Canada and the Bank of Japan step in in a very coordinated way to provide liquidity to these markets.”
Friedberg
macro 46% · n=40
· E70 (2022-02-24) · explicit_prediction · strength 2
▶ 57:59
OPPOSE
“they're assuming that under the conditions of great uncertainty like this, the Fed cannot act as aggressively as they were planning to act ... it would continue to kind of keep prices somewhat inflated and continue to support the market with cheaper capital and liquidity”
Chamath
macro 53% · n=47
· E65 (2022-01-29) · explicit_prediction · strength 3
▶ 44:16
SUPPORT
“we have to remember that, you know, the Fed has nine trillion dollars of assets on their balance sheet. And so, you know, if they start to take nine trillion dollars of cash out of the system by selling these assets into the market, right, you're taking the money out, right, because you're getting money back. That's going to have an enormous, huge impact as well.”
Friedberg
macro 46% · n=40
· E64 (2022-01-22) · explicit_prediction · strength 3
▶ 48:01
SUPPORT
“the reality is, over the last couple of years, we've had trillions of dollars that have flowed into these markets for free. And those trillions of dollars have created lots of mini asset bubbles. ... And regardless, the money is coming out of the markets. The money is going to come out one way or another. And as it starts to come out, these little bubbles are the first that are going to pop.”
Chamath
macro 53% · n=47
· E64 (2022-01-22) · sentiment · strength 2
▶ 43:51
SUPPORT
“you're right that we pumped in $10 trillion, but over the last three weeks, and really over the last two and a half months, we have actually eviscerated $10 trillion of value as well. So if you want to measure it, we put $10 trillion of excess capital in, but we've now destroyed $10 trillion of equity.”
Sacks
macro 56% · n=40
· E64 (2022-01-22) · explicit_prediction · strength 3
▶ 42:53
SUPPORT
“you had the Fed and the federal government pump a 10 trillion of liquidity into the market over the past two years because of Covid. Now they're starting to pull that back. And there was, I think, a general asset inflation across asset classes. Certain types of assets clearly got more inflated than others.”
Sacks
macro 56% · n=40
· E62 (2022-01-08) · explicit_prediction · strength 3
▶ 40:36
SUPPORT
“we're in the midst of a giant re-rating because we're realizing that so much of the peak values we were seeing in 2020 and 21 were the result of artificial liquidity. ... I guess my big prediction for business losers this year were asset classes that were highly dependent on liquidity. You guys predicted crypto would be one of those. Clearly, it's taken a massive hit.”
Sacks
macro 56% · n=40
· E61 (2021-12-29) · annual_prediction · strength 2
▶ 33:16
SUPPORT
· horizon 12mo
“In 2022, the Fed is going to stop quantitative easing... the losers are going to be any of these asset classes that are heavily dependent on all this excess liquidity... everything from sports cards and collectibles to art, to crypto, to maybe some growth stocks... markets that have to get off drugs basically.”
Who built this conviction
each voice's total push on the score, in conviction points across every mention — supports and opposes · share = % of all mention-driven movement
⏳ decay drained -79.4 over the idea's life — that's time passing, attributed to no one
Score events
| episode | kind | Δ | after | note |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| E61 2021-12-29 | init | +40.0 | 40.0 | E61 born by Sacks (annual_prediction x2) |
| E62 2022-01-08 | reinforce | +10.8 | 50.8 | E62 Sacks support x3 |
| E63 2022-01-15 | decay | -2.0 | 48.8 | E63 silent |
| E64 2022-01-22 | reinforce | +9.2 | 58.0 | E64 Sacks support x3 |
| E64 2022-01-22 | reinforce | +9.5 | 67.4 | E64 Chamath support x2 (new voice) |
| E64 2022-01-22 | reinforce | +8.8 | 76.2 | E64 Friedberg support x3 (new voice) |
| E65 2022-01-29 | reinforce | +4.3 | 80.5 | E65 Chamath support x3 |
| E66 2022-02-05 | decay | -3.2 | 77.3 | E66 silent |
| E67 2022-02-12 | decay | -3.1 | 74.2 | E67 silent |
| E68 2022-02-19 | decay | -3.0 | 71.2 | E68 silent |
| E70 2022-02-24 | oppose | -12.0 | 59.2 | E70 Friedberg opposes x2 |
| E71 2022-03-05 | oppose | -12.0 | 47.2 | E71 Chamath opposes x2 |
| E72 2022-03-19 | decay | -1.9 | 45.3 | E72 silent |
| E73 2022-03-26 | reinforce | +8.2 | 53.5 | E73 Sacks support x2 |
| E73 2022-03-26 | reinforce | +12.5 | 66.1 | E73 Brad Gerstner support x3 (new voice) |
| E74 2022-04-01 | reinforce | +6.1 | 72.2 | E74 Sacks support x3 |
| E75 2022-04-09 | reinforce | +5.0 | 77.2 | E75 Chamath support x3 (flipped from oppose) |
| E76 2022-04-16 | decay | -3.1 | 74.1 | E76 silent |
| E77 2022-04-23 | decay | -3.0 | 71.1 | E77 silent |
| E78 2022-04-30 | reinforce | +4.3 | 75.5 | E78 Chamath support x2 |
| E78 2022-04-30 | reinforce | +3.7 | 79.2 | E78 Sacks support x2 |
| E79 2022-05-07 | decay | -3.2 | 76.0 | E79 silent |
| E80 2022-05-13 | reinforce | +4.3 | 80.3 | E80 Friedberg support x3 (flipped from oppose) |
| E80 2022-05-13 | reinforce | +3.5 | 83.9 | E80 Chamath support x3 |
| E80 2022-05-13 | reinforce | +2.9 | 86.8 | E80 Sacks support x3 |
| E81 2022-05-23 | reinforce | +3.0 | 89.7 | E81 Bill Gurley support x2 (new voice) |
| E81 2022-05-23 | reinforce | +1.5 | 91.3 | E81 Brad Gerstner support x2 |
| E82 2022-05-24 | decay | -3.7 | 87.6 | E82 silent |
| E84 2022-06-24 | reinforce | +2.2 | 89.9 | E84 Chamath support x3 |
| E84 2022-06-24 | reinforce | +1.8 | 91.7 | E84 Sacks support x3 |
| E85 2022-06-30 | reinforce | +1.5 | 93.2 | E85 Sacks support x3 |
| E85 2022-06-30 | reinforce | +1.2 | 94.4 | E85 Chamath support x3 |
| E86 2022-07-08 | decay | -3.8 | 90.6 | E86 silent |
| E87 2022-07-14 | decay | -3.6 | 87.0 | E87 silent |
| E88 2022-07-22 | decay | -3.5 | 83.5 | E88 silent |
| E89 2022-07-29 | reinforce | +3.0 | 86.5 | E89 Chamath support x3 |
| E90 2022-08-05 | decay | -3.5 | 83.0 | E90 silent |
| E91 2022-08-13 | decay | -3.3 | 79.7 | E91 silent |
| E92 2022-08-20 | decay | -3.2 | 76.5 | E92 silent |
| E93 2022-08-26 | decay | -3.1 | 73.5 | E93 silent |
| E94 2022-09-01 | reinforce | +3.2 | 76.6 | E94 Sacks support x1 |
| E94 2022-09-01 | reinforce | +3.5 | 80.1 | E94 Friedberg support x2 |
| E95 2022-09-10 | decay | -3.2 | 76.9 | E95 silent |
| E96 2022-09-17 | decay | -3.1 | 73.9 | E96 silent |
| E97 2022-09-23 | decay | -3.0 | 70.9 | E97 silent |
| E98 2022-10-01 | reinforce | +4.4 | 75.3 | E98 Friedberg support x2 |
| E99 2022-10-07 | decay | -3.0 | 72.3 | E99 silent |
| E100 2022-10-14 | decay | -2.9 | 69.4 | E100 silent |
| E101 2022-10-22 | reinforce | +4.6 | 74.0 | E101 Friedberg support x2 |
| E102 2022-10-29 | decay | -3.0 | 71.0 | E102 silent |
| E103 2022-11-05 | reinforce | +4.3 | 75.4 | E103 Chamath support x2 |
| E105 2022-11-19 | decay | -3.0 | 72.3 | E105 silent |
| E106 2022-12-03 | decay | -2.9 | 69.4 | E106 silent |
| E107 2022-12-10 | decay | -2.8 | 66.7 | E107 silent |
| E108 2022-12-16 | decay | -2.7 | 64.0 | E108 silent |
| E109 2022-12-24 | reinforce | +6.5 | 70.5 | E109 Chamath support x3 |
| E109 2022-12-24 | reinforce | +4.4 | 74.9 | E109 Sacks support x2 |