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🌍 2023 marks the beginning of the end of dollar reserve dominance

Petro-yuan trades (Saudi-China), a coalescing non-dollar bloc and US debt loads make the dollar start trading like a risk asset rather than the risk-free reserve — the erosion begins in 2023.

0 CONVICTION
peaked 40.0 EMBER
DORMANT
band · contested
▼ SHORT UUP
expression · bearish macro
WRONG
result · return -4.5% · vs SPY -26.9%
2024-01-06
born 2023-01-06 (E110) → window closed

other ideas on the same ticker, same direction: The debasement trade: USD is 2026's worst asset 11 (UUP)

⚖ Why this result

fully deterministic — computed from daily closes on the scoring date; nothing below is editable or hand-set

  1. Window: 2023-01-06 → 2024-01-06 — first mention + 12-month horizon, then the window locks.
  2. The call: ▼ SHORT UUP (primary play). UUP rose 4.5% over the window → return (sign flipped for a SHORT) = -4.5% (the call lost money).
  3. Benchmark: holding SPY over the same window returned +22.4% → vs SPY = -4.5 − (+22.4) = -26.9% — what this call made or lost against just owning the index. This is the number the result uses.
    Direction-only read: +17.9% — did UUP move the predicted way relative to the market. The two only differ on a SHORT: this call was right about direction relative to the index but still cost money versus holding it.
  4. Rule fired:
    · RIGHT — return ≥ +10% AND beat SPY by 5+
    · HALF — return ≥ +5% OR beat SPY at all
    ▶ WRONG — everything else
  5. Credit: supporters of a WRONG earn 0 each, opposers the opposite — this feeds the scoreboard. supported: Friedberg, Sacks | opposed: Chamath, Jason

Conviction timeline

bands: green ≥ 65 · watch ≥ 45 · ember ≥ 15

Plays vs SPY · % since first mention (2023-01-06)

Plays

expressionsymbolkindrelevancerationale
▼ SHORT UUPetf PRIMARY dollar index ETF — direct expression

Mention log newest first

Jason
Jason macro 63% · n=30 · E144 (2023-09-01) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 46:03 OPPOSE
“But they should make their own euro. If they feel so strongly that they're a great voting bloc, make a euro. And then they could all put into it. And you can see what happens when a bunch of dictators and a long tail of failed states now share a common currency. It's not going to work.”
Friedberg
Friedberg macro 46% · n=40 · E144 (2023-09-01) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 40:46 SUPPORT
“What I think is most important is the signal that's being given, which is that there is a desire by a larger percentage of global GDP than is represented by the G7 to de-dollarize. And so while these intentions may be difficult to translate into policy in the near term, that signal says a lot about the influence and perhaps the policy of the US in addressing and dealing with a lot of these countries and global economic actors.”
Chamath
Chamath macro 53% · n=47 · E144 (2023-09-01) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 36:45 OPPOSE
“I think the fact pattern in that organization is pretty poor. ... That bank has not disbursed a single dollar in 23 years. They tried to create a joint program to lay undersea fiber amongst these countries, hasn't even started. ... I think the problem is that the actual amount of legislative coordination that these countries has been able to exhibit has been literally zero. ... And if you look at Swift in July, the Swift volumes on US dollars was the largest ever.”
Sacks
Sacks macro 56% · n=40 · E144 (2023-09-01) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 31:41 SUPPORT · horizon 60mo
“If Brics adds Venezuela, Algeria and Kazakhstan, as they may do as soon as next year, they'll control 90% of all oil and gas traded globally. ... The other big thing that I think Brics is doing is they have this five to ten-year goal of allowing Brics members to settle trades in local currencies. ... The goal here is not to create a new reserve currency. It's simply to create a way to bypass the dollar complex. They're trying to break the petrodollar monopoly.”
Chamath
Chamath macro 53% · n=47 · E140 (2023-08-04) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 54:54 OPPOSE
“Do you all of a sudden double down on the euro? Do you double down on the yuan, which is basically a proxy for doubling down on the US dollar? What are you supposed to do? And I never get a good answer because on a relative basis, the US will still continue to do well.”
Friedberg
Friedberg macro 46% · n=40 · E140 (2023-08-04) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 48:45 SUPPORT
“That means as we're trying to sell more Treasuries, foreign governments are buying fewer of them, which means that the US currency as a reserve is no longer the place that everyone wants to plow their money as much as it used to be. It is in decline.”
Sacks
Sacks macro 56% · n=40 · E137 (2023-07-14) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 59:41 SUPPORT
“The BRICS countries are about to introduce an alternative currency that's based on gold.”
Jason
Jason macro 63% · n=30 · E131 (2023-06-02) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 1:11:25 OPPOSE
“I disagree. I think there will be, will remain the global reserve for our lifetime.”
Friedberg
Friedberg macro 46% · n=40 · E131 (2023-06-02) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 59:07 SUPPORT
“And fundamentally, I don't think that there's as safe a haven as there has been historically. And as a result, I think a lot of these governments and a lot of the business leaders in these countries are very much open to doing transactions in multiple currencies. And that's the beginning of the end.”
Chamath
Chamath macro 53% · n=47 · E131 (2023-06-02) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 57:39 OPPOSE
“The share of Yuan transactions briefly rose above 3% in 2022 That was the peak and it's now off 26%, down to about 2.2%. So actually the share of Yuan transactions has actually been shrinking in the last year.”
Sacks
Sacks macro 56% · n=40 · E131 (2023-06-02) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 55:23 SUPPORT
“So you're going to look to diversify. You're going to look to put your money in gold. You're going to look to put your money in other currencies.”
Chamath
Chamath macro 53% · n=47 · E128 (2023-05-12) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 28:18 OPPOSE
“We are the reserve currency of the world. It's not changing anytime soon. It's not even close.”
Sacks
Sacks macro 56% · n=40 · E125 (2023-04-21) · sentiment · strength 1 ▶ 1:22:33 SUPPORT
“The more I think about it, the more I think it's probably not a coincidence that you're seeing all these concerns about de-dollarization at the same time they're cracking down on crypto.”
Jason
Jason macro 63% · n=30 · E123 (2023-04-07) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 27:19 OPPOSE
“I do think there's a group of catastrophists who maybe are hoping this happens or it's a great Twitter fodder.”
Sacks
Sacks macro 56% · n=40 · E123 (2023-04-07) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 23:32 SUPPORT
“I think de-dollarization hasn't happened yet, but I think it's a risk, and I think there's a bunch of reasons why the risk is growing.”
Chamath
Chamath macro 53% · n=47 · E123 (2023-04-07) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 20:37 OPPOSE
“Nothing. This whole thing is a huge nothing burger. This is the third deal that China has done. The other two countries are Pakistan and Brazil.”
Friedberg
Friedberg macro 46% · n=40 · E123 (2023-04-07) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 17:36 SUPPORT
“the more we kind of as the US think we want to de-globalize and reduce our trade relationships with other nations, the more, you know, we're out of the way in allowing China to do that. I think it's worth observing that the Chinese economy will grow, the depth of the relationships will grow, potentially the strength and importance of their currency will continue to mount as they build these really deep infrastructure and investment tie-ins around the world.”
Friedberg
Friedberg macro 46% · n=40 · E121 (2023-03-24) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 44:26 SUPPORT
“When Dalio's points of view, with lots of kind of empirical wisdom behind it, I think, indicate that the US is on a path, and the way we spend, and the way we behave, and the way markets are reacting, I think, indicates that a lot of what has happened historically is happening now in the US.”
Chamath
Chamath macro 53% · n=47 · E121 (2023-03-24) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 31:13 OPPOSE
“But the other part of it is, like, does it reinforce or does it decay US dollar hegemony? And I think it actually reinforces it. And the reason is just very practically speaking, when you look at how dependent other people, other countries are on the US dollar in times of stress, they actually become more dependent.”
Sacks
Sacks macro 56% · n=40 · E110 (2023-01-06) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 1:00:53 OPPOSE
“would love to get off of the dollar ... But I don't think they're anywhere close to be able to do that yet.”
Jason
Jason macro 63% · n=30 · E110 (2023-01-06) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 1:00:06 OPPOSE
“I take the exact opposite of your contrarian belief. I believe American exceptionalism continues to soar, as Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, ... are going to stab each other in the back before they change the world or move the currency.”
Friedberg
Friedberg macro 46% · n=40 · E110 (2023-01-06) · annual_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 58:03 SUPPORT · horizon 12mo
“it could be that the US dollar coming out of 2023 starts to trade more like a risk asset and less like a risk-free asset. ... maybe this year marks the beginning of the end of the US dollar as the kind of global de facto reserve currency based on some of these big trades”

Who built this conviction

each voice's total push on the score, in conviction points across every mention — supports and opposes · share = % of all mention-driven movement

Friedberg
Friedberg 46%
6 scoring events · 35% of moves
+112.3 → net +112.3
Chamath
Chamath 53%
6 scoring events · 26% of moves
+0.0 / -83.1 → net -83.1
Sacks
Sacks 56%
6 scoring events · 24% of moves
+67.0 / -12.0 → net +55.0
Jason
Jason 63%
4 scoring events · 16% of moves
+0.0 / -50.4 → net -50.4

⏳ decay drained -21.6 over the idea's life — that's time passing, attributed to no one

Score events

episodekindΔafternote
E110 2023-01-06 init +40.0 40.0 E110 born by Friedberg (annual_prediction x2)
E110 2023-01-06 oppose -12.0 28.0 E110 Jason opposes x2
E110 2023-01-06 oppose -12.0 16.0 E110 Sacks opposes x2
E111 2023-01-13 decay -0.6 15.4 E111 silent
E112 2023-01-20 decay -0.6 14.7 E112 silent
E113 2023-01-27 decay -0.6 14.2 E113 silent
E114 2023-02-04 decay -0.6 13.6 E114 silent
E115 2023-02-11 decay -0.5 13.0 E115 silent
E116 2023-02-17 decay -0.5 12.5 E116 silent
E118 2023-03-03 decay -0.5 12.0 E118 silent
E119 2023-03-11 decay -0.5 11.5 E119 silent
E120 2023-03-17 decay -0.5 11.1 E120 silent
E121 2023-03-24 oppose -11.1 0.0 E121 Chamath opposes x3
E121 2023-03-24 reinforce +15.0 15.0 E121 Friedberg support x2
E122 2023-03-31 decay -0.6 14.4 E122 silent
E123 2023-04-07 reinforce +15.4 29.8 E123 Friedberg support x3
E123 2023-04-07 oppose -14.4 15.4 E123 Chamath opposes x3
E123 2023-04-07 reinforce +12.7 28.1 E123 Sacks support x2 (flipped from oppose)
E123 2023-04-07 oppose -12.0 16.1 E123 Jason opposes x2
E124 2023-04-14 decay -0.6 15.5 E124 silent
E125 2023-04-21 reinforce +10.1 25.6 E125 Sacks support x1
E126 2023-04-28 decay -1.0 24.6 E126 silent
E128 2023-05-12 oppose -14.4 10.2 E128 Chamath opposes x3
E129 2023-05-19 decay -0.4 9.8 E129 silent
E130 2023-05-26 decay -0.4 9.4 E130 silent
E131 2023-06-02 reinforce +16.3 25.7 E131 Sacks support x3
E131 2023-06-02 oppose -14.4 11.3 E131 Chamath opposes x3
E131 2023-06-02 reinforce +16.0 27.3 E131 Friedberg support x3
E131 2023-06-02 oppose -14.4 12.9 E131 Jason opposes x3
E132 2023-06-10 decay -0.5 12.3 E132 silent
E133 2023-06-16 decay -0.5 11.8 E133 silent
E134 2023-06-24 decay -0.5 11.4 E134 silent
E135 2023-07-01 decay -0.5 10.9 E135 silent
E136 2023-07-09 decay -0.4 10.5 E136 silent
E137 2023-07-14 reinforce +13.4 23.9 E137 Sacks support x2
E139 2023-07-27 decay -1.0 23.0 E139 silent
E140 2023-08-04 reinforce +13.9 36.8 E140 Friedberg support x3
E140 2023-08-04 oppose -14.4 22.4 E140 Chamath opposes x3
E141 2023-08-11 decay -0.9 21.5 E141 silent
E142 2023-08-18 decay -0.9 20.7 E142 silent
E143 2023-08-25 decay -0.8 19.8 E143 silent
E144 2023-09-01 reinforce +14.4 34.3 E144 Sacks support x3
E144 2023-09-01 oppose -14.4 19.9 E144 Chamath opposes x3
E144 2023-09-01 reinforce +12.0 31.9 E144 Friedberg support x2
E144 2023-09-01 oppose -12.0 19.9 E144 Jason opposes x2
E146 2023-09-22 decay -0.8 19.1 E146 silent
E147 2023-09-29 decay -0.8 18.3 E147 silent
E148 2023-10-07 decay -0.7 17.6 E148 silent
E149 2023-10-13 decay -0.7 16.9 E149 silent
E150 2023-10-20 decay -0.7 16.2 E150 silent
E151 2023-10-27 decay -0.6 15.6 E151 silent
E152 2023-11-03 decay -0.6 14.9 E152 silent
E156 2023-12-08 decay -0.6 14.3 E156 silent
E157 2023-12-16 decay -0.6 13.8 E157 silent
E158 2023-12-23 decay -0.6 13.2 E158 silent
E159 2023-12-29 decay -0.5 12.7 E159 silent
E160 2024-01-06 decay -0.5 12.2 E160 silent