E109

E109: 2022 Bestie Awards Live from Twitter HQ

2022-12-24 spoken.md · speaker-labeled ▶ watch ← E108 all episodes E110 →

2
ideas born
24
ideas moved
35
captures · 6 voices
5
dissenting
+202.1
conviction added
-77.8
decay · 80 silent

Every number here is replayed from score_events — the same ledger the pool ranks on. Decay is what the 80 ideas nobody mentioned gave up this week; it applies only when an episode is processed.

Tier crossings

conviction thresholds crossed by this episode — 65 / 45 / 15 · ideas born here show where they landed. why 65 isn't always green

▲ +11.8 🌍 Fed ending QE drains liquidity-dependent assets in 2022 watch green threshold 64.1 → 75.8 still watch — green gate not met
▲ +10.9 ⚡ Global conflict era begins — energy and defense outperform watch green threshold 61.9 → 72.7 still watch — green gate not met
▲ +10.3 🏛️ Section 230's algorithmic shield gets rolled back - platform liability overhang watch green threshold 57.1 → 67.4 still ember — green gate not met
▲ +9.2 📈 The negative-unit-economics growth playbook dies with free capital watch green threshold 57.8 → 67.0 still ember — green gate not met
▲ +11.9 📈 Legacy journalism is obsolete - the opinion economy takes the audience watch green threshold 55.0 → 66.9 still watch — green gate not met
▲ +15.7 🤖 Natural-language chat disrupts Google's search box ember watch 44.7 → 60.5
▲ +22.7 📈 FTX's cap table is a who's-who of no diligence ember watch 33.3 → 56.0
▲ +9.4 🤖 Big tech's growth era ends - cash-cow multiples and cost discipline ember watch 42.2 → 51.6
▲ +9.4 🤖 Generative AI is the next Silicon Valley bubble cycle ember watch 41.7 → 51.1
▲ +47.7 📈 Premium-IP media rerates - Iger's Disney and Warner's library born at watch 47.7
▲ +35.2 📈 Base-edited T-cells cure incurable blood cancer - gene editing inflects born at ember 35.2
▼ -12.1 📈 Tech drawdown is in the eighth inning - the bottom is close ember dormant 26.9 → 14.8
▼ -15.2 🤖 Only foundation models can disrupt search - and Google is too far ahead ember dormant 28.0 → 12.8
▼ -12.8 🌍 American exceptionalism soars and the economy booms in 2022 ember dormant 19.3 → 6.6

Kill dates that landed since E108

1 hit · 0 partial · 0 miss — windows that closed after 2022-12-16 and up to 2022-12-24, auto-scored against price data and never hand-set. verdict · R · α

ideaverdictRαclosed
🤖 The metaverse/Web3 label is empty hype — Meta's pivot is the loser trade HIT +64.8% +82.1 2022-12-23

Who moved the board

each voice's force on conviction this episodesupports and opposes, weighted exactly as the replay applied them · share = % of this episode's movement

Jason
Jason
9 captures · 34% of movement · 1 idea born
+97.0 / -15.2 → net +81.8
Chamath
Chamath
9 captures · 27% of movement · 1 idea born
+64.6 / -24.8 → net +39.8
Friedberg
Friedberg
6 captures · 16% of movement
+38.6 / -12.5 → net +26.1
Sacks
Sacks
8 captures · 13% of movement
+34.4 / -9.3 → net +25.1
EL
Elon Musk regular guest ×1.0
2 captures · 8% of movement
+24.5 → net +24.5
MI
Michael Shellenberger guest ×0.5
1 capture · 1% of movement
+4.8 → net +4.8

What got argued (24 ideas)

ordered by how hard each idea moved · quotes are verbatim from the transcript, timestamps deep-link into the episode

NEW DIS 📈 Premium-IP media rerates - Iger's Disney and Warner's library closed 23 CONTESTED ▲ +47.7 0.0 → 47.7

The scarce asset in media is the owned IP library, not the streaming subscriber. With Iger back at Disney and HBO/Warner printing hits, the beaten-down legacy studios rerate; Jason is long Disney and Warner and buying more.

plays DIS ·primary WBD evals 2023-12-24
Friedberg
Friedberg support ×2 sentiment ▶ 38:16
But man, Warner Media has a lot to contend with. And, you know, they could end up being a real challenger to Disney in the years ahead.
Jason
Jason support ×3 positioning ▶ 1:55:50
I'm telling you, Disney, Warner, which you talked about before, and Facebook are three of my big ones.
NEW BEAM 📈 Base-edited T-cells cure incurable blood cancer - gene editing inflects closed 6 ▲ +35.2 0.0 → 35.2

Chamath's science call of the year: a UK lab used CRISPR base editing on donor T-cells to make a 13-year-old's incurable T-cell ALL undetectable. If base editing can eradicate a blood cancer it extends to solid tumours, making gene-editing platforms the most valuable technology in medicine.

plays BEAM ·primary CRSP NTLA evals 2023-12-24
Chamath
Chamath support ×3 explicit_prediction ▶ 52:44
Because if you can actually now do base editing and eradicate, at least in this case, a blood-based cancer, and eventually we'll be able to bring that and use that towards solid-state tumor cancers, it's a huge breakthrough in just human longevity and human quality of life.
TSLA 🤖 Musk turns Twitter around fast - MAU value doubles or triples closed 21 ▲ +23.3 20.7 → 44.0
Jason
Jason support ×3 explicit_prediction 4mo horizon ▶ 46:33
I predict in another six to 18 weeks, we will see people talking about all the great features in Twitter, not any of the transitional issues.
Friedberg
Friedberg brush_off ×2 sentiment ▶ 50:01
Yeah, you're selling a product for a company that you guys are working at. I mean, come on.
EL
Elon Musk support ×3 positioning guest ×1.0 ▶ 1:00:48
We've got the expenses reasonably under control, so the company's not in the fast lane of bankruptcy anymore. And we're releasing features faster than Twitter's history at the same time as having contained the costs and reduced the cost structure by a factor of three, maybe four.
IPO 📈 FTX's cap table is a who's-who of no diligence closed 25 ▲ +22.7 33.3 → 56.0
Friedberg
Friedberg support ×3 sentiment ▶ 31:47
And investors failed to do relevant amounts of due diligence or form a board and have proper governance over him because they wanted to be part of the hot new thing and everyone had capital to deploy.
Jason
Jason support ×2 sentiment ▶ 1:46:59
There's a generation of investors who raised their funds in the last five years and didn't do diligence, didn't demand board seats, didn't demand boards.
GOOGL 🤖 Natural-language chat disrupts Google's search box closed 0 CONTESTED ▲ +15.7 44.7 → 60.5
Jason
Jason support ×3 explicit_prediction 12mo horizon ▶ 28:28
Microsoft, I think, is going to release a, and this is a prediction as well, a search engine with OpenAI that has a significant impact on Google's franchise.
GOOGL 🤖 Only foundation models can disrupt search - and Google is too far ahead closed 39 CONTESTED ▼ -15.2 28.0 → 12.8
Jason
Jason oppose ×3 explicit_prediction ▶ 28:28
Google, one of the greatest businesses and franchises ever created, has no answer currently for Chat GPT, because Google's business model is to get you to click on an ad between links.
QQQ 🌍 American exceptionalism soars and the economy booms in 2022 closed 7 CONTESTED ▼ -12.8 19.3 → 6.6
Chamath
Chamath oppose ×2 sentiment ▶ 20:33
I mean, I whiffed. It just completely missed the global macro shift that we embarked on in full force starting in Q1 of this year.
QQQ 📈 Tech drawdown is in the eighth inning - the bottom is close closed 13 CONTESTED ▼ -12.1 26.9 → 14.8
Chamath
Chamath reversal ×3 explicit_prediction ▶ 1:44:05
I have been guiding our portfolio company CEOs to be at cash flow break even now or extend runway to Q1 2025
NYT 📈 Legacy journalism is obsolete - the opinion economy takes the audience closed 60 ▲ +11.9 55.0 → 66.9
Chamath
Chamath support ×2 explicit_prediction ▶ 1:40:56
Well, if you're getting 10 times more distribution than the New York Times, you know what's going to happen is people will stop listening and reading.
Sacks
Sacks support ×3 sentiment ▶ 2:04:18
Yeah, I would say best trend is the growing realization that the corporate media is failing. It does not tell the truth. It has an agenda. More and more people are opting out of it and going with independent media.
ARKK 🌍 Fed ending QE drains liquidity-dependent assets in 2022 closed 76 ▲ +11.8 64.1 → 75.8
Chamath
Chamath support ×3 explicit_prediction ▶ 20:33
So, it is an absolute worldwide sea change in how we need to think about risk.
Sacks
Sacks support ×2 sentiment ▶ 21:26
So I got that part right, but what I didn't connect it to were all the asset classes actually got pummeled.
XLE ⚡ Global conflict era begins — energy and defense outperform closed 73 ▲ +10.9 61.9 → 72.7
Sacks
Sacks support ×3 explicit_prediction 12mo horizon ▶ 23:46
So these companies are going to keep doing well for the next year at least.
Friedberg
Friedberg support ×3 positioning ▶ 26:42
I traded it too. I bought an energy ETF, so it worked out for me.
GOOGL 🏛️ Section 230's algorithmic shield gets rolled back - platform liability overhang closed 32 ▲ +10.3 57.1 → 67.4
MI
Michael Shellenberger support ×2 explicit_prediction guest ×0.5 12mo horizon ▶ 1:25:04
It does look like Congress is going to look into this. The two heads of the committees that are tasked with this have said that they're going to look into it next year.
Sacks
Sacks support ×2 sentiment ▶ 2:05:52
This year's worst trend is the government colluding with Big Tech to engage in censorship. This is how they're going to do the authoritarianism.
NVDA 🤖 Generative AI is the next Silicon Valley bubble cycle closed 24 CONTESTED ▲ +9.4 41.7 → 51.1
Friedberg
Friedberg support ×2 explicit_prediction ▶ 2:01:38
And as you guys know, there's an absolute frigging tidal wave of people trying to start companies that are leveraging tools and generative AI to kind of reinvent everything from workplace tools, enterprise software, all the way through to media, games and entertainment.
META 🤖 Big tech's growth era ends - cash-cow multiples and cost discipline closed 22 ▲ +9.4 42.2 → 51.6
Chamath
Chamath support ×3 explicit_prediction ▶ 30:27
And then number three, I think it started to change the innovation cycle where people now actually believe that they can't outspend because folks won't tolerate it.
META 🤖 Social network effects are not moats - the platforms fragment closed 6 CONTESTED ▼ -9.3 13.7 → 4.4
Sacks
Sacks oppose ×2 sentiment ▶ 48:00
Anybody who's thinking about going to some knockoff like Macedon or something is going to have to contend with the fact that it doesn't have nearly the distribution.
LYFT 📈 The negative-unit-economics growth playbook dies with free capital closed 32 ▲ +9.2 57.8 → 67.0
Jason
Jason support ×2 sentiment ▶ 1:46:59
And then Uber, I put in my second. They need to do another riff. They need to cut some expenses, but they too are hitting the free cash flow and the network effects.
SPY 📈 Wall Street earnings estimates are wrong - the E resets, not just the multiple closed 23 CONTESTED ▲ +8.6 35.1 → 43.8
Sacks
Sacks support ×2 sentiment ▶ 1:43:51
It's not getting better. I mean, the stock market today should be a wake up call. I mean, this is one of the worst days in the market the whole year.
SPY 🌍 Rate hikes bite with a lag - back in recession next year closed 18 CONTESTED ▲ +7.0 86.2 → 93.2
EL
Elon Musk support ×3 explicit_prediction guest ×1.0 12mo horizon ▶ 1:18:41
Well, I think it's more like it does seem like we're headed into a recession here in 2023 The magnitude of that recession is debatable, but I think it's at least a light to moderate recession. Potentially, it's on the order of 2009
Chamath
Chamath support ×3 explicit_prediction 18mo horizon ▶ 1:44:05
because I think Elon and I are roughly in the same place we have been for a while, which is like mid-24 is when the recession ends
Sacks
Sacks support ×2 sentiment 12mo horizon ▶ 1:49:32
And now he is predicting a hard landing in 2023 with a deeper recession than many expect.
BTC-USD 🪙 Crypto bubble bursts in 2022 — 90% of projects blow up closed 59 ▲ +4.7 54.7 → 59.4
Jason
Jason support ×2 sentiment ▶ 28:28
I said in 2020, I predicted in 2021, the biggest loser in 2022 would be crypto. By the way, Friedberg, you agreed with me, and we nailed it.
META 🤖 Twitter's riff proves big tech is overstaffed - lean-opex reset ahead closed 52 CONTESTED ▲ +3.2 88.7 → 91.9
Sacks
Sacks support ×2 sentiment ▶ 1:43:02
I think that every CEO who responded to the regime change by cutting costs, getting leaner, extending runway, I think deserves to be on this list.
Jason
Jason support ×3 positioning ▶ 1:55:37
I bought it at 94, it's at 117, it's one of my best J-Trades.
TLT 🏦 Inflation hasn't peaked and the terminal rate is above what's priced closed 15 CONTESTED ▲ +3.2 75.7 → 78.9
Chamath
Chamath support ×2 explicit_prediction 12mo horizon ▶ 1:18:07
One of the things we just talked about was the regime change that's happened where, you know, we all have to act differently now that the risk free rate is probably going to get to 5%.
COIN 🪙 Crypto collapse triggers a multi-year enforcement and litigation wave closed 45 CONTESTED ▲ +3.1 74.7 → 77.9
Jason
Jason support ×3 explicit_prediction 12mo horizon ▶ 41:57
And I think there will be a subsequent domino to fall, which is now that Gary G, head of the SEC, has FTX and the FTT tokens as the grift, he's going to go down the list of other tokens.
URA ⚡ Energy crisis reverses green policy - nuclear and natural gas get rehabilitated closed 28 ▲ +2.4 71.2 → 73.6
Chamath
Chamath support ×2 sentiment ▶ 10:47
You know, there was a huge raft of whether it was green ESG, kind of woke liberal politics that manifested itself in all kinds of national security decisions and energy decisions that in this last year, they literally had to undo in order to stay alive.
IPO 📈 Late-stage private marks reset 30-60% — down-round IPOs become the norm closed 85 ▲ +1.7 87.2 → 88.9
Friedberg
Friedberg support ×2 sentiment ▶ 22:28
But it still seems like a super high quality business. And, you know, valuation wise, who knows what things are going to be worth when they ultimately come to market. There's certainly no one going public right now.

Episode digest

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Bestie Awards retrospective, taped with Sacks live at Twitter HQ, where Elon Musk walked in as a genuine 24-minute guest and Michael Shellenberger followed him. The single biggest capture is a Chamath REVERSAL on his own E064 'tech drawdown is in the eighth inning' call: he now names himself and everyone else long tech the worst investors of 2022, says mid-24 is when the recession ends, and is guiding portfolio CEOs to hold runway to Q1 2025. Elon's macro call is the other headline - a light-to-moderate 2023 recession, possibly 2009-scale, dawn breaking around Q2 2024, watch out for margin debt - and Chamath, Sacks (via Druckenmiller's hard landing) all stack onto the same recession idea. Reinforced: the QE-drain regime change (Sacks scoring his own call), energy/defense (Friedberg discloses he actually bought the energy ETF), crypto's blowup plus Jason's forward call that Gensler now walks the token list, and Meta's cost-cut turnaround (Jason long from 94). New this episode: Jason's disclosed Disney+Warner premium-IP book, and Chamath's base-edited-T-cell leukemia cure as the real 2022 breakthrough. The E108 fusion-vs-solar fight runs on explicitly ('let me further clarify what I said last week'): Friedberg reaffirms the fusion investment case with receipts (fusion-startup count +40%, ~$10B/yr flowing in) while downgrading his own word 'breakthrough' to 'milestone', and Chamath re-runs the CAPM argument that only four or five government-funded labs can get there, then calls fusion the year's flash in the pan; his own leg is solar at low-single-digit pennies per kWh producing a decade-or-two peace dividend. Friedberg supplies the honest counterweight - a brush_off of Jason and Sacks shilling Twitter features ('you're selling a product for a company that you guys are working at') and, notably, he now supports the FTX no-diligence thesis he argued AGAINST in E105. Diarization: host labels CLEAN (fingerprint + addressed-by-name + top-talker tests all pass), Elon and Shellenberger are real in-person guests, but the 'Michael Shellenberger' label at 56:47 actually carries a played Biden clip 27 minutes before he joins - nothing was captured from it. NOT attached: E060's metaverse-fizzles idea died 2022-12-23, one day before this episode, so Jason's 'Chamath nailed the metaverse' victory lap at 57:04 was left on the floor.