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🏛️ China takes Taiwan and the silicon chokepoint forces US intervention

Chamath's standing call, repeated here: China is becoming a fully vertically integrated state that exports critical technology building blocks with no recourse for the buyer, and it will invade Taiwan. Because the US has zero domestic capability without TSMC and a couple of other Taiwanese fabs, Washington would have no choice but to deploy troops. Taiwan-concentrated semiconductor supply therefore carries a geopolitical tail risk that is not in the price.

0 CONVICTION
peaked 66.3 GREEN
EMBER
band · contested
▼ SHORT TSM
expression · bearish politics-market
RIGHT
result · return +34.1% · vs SPY +44.0%
2022-09-14
born 2021-09-14 (E46) → window closed

⚖ Why this result

fully deterministic — computed from daily closes on the scoring date; nothing below is editable or hand-set

  1. Window: 2021-09-14 → 2022-09-14 — first mention + 12-month horizon, then the window locks.
  2. The call: ▼ SHORT TSM (primary play). TSM fell 34.1% over the window → return (sign flipped for a SHORT) = +34.1% (the call made money).
  3. Benchmark: holding SPY over the same window returned -9.9% → vs SPY = +34.1 − (-9.9) = +44.0% — what this call made or lost against just owning the index. This is the number the result uses.
    Direction-only read: +24.2% — did TSM move the predicted way relative to the market. The two only differ on a SHORT: this call beat the index outright.
  4. Rule fired:
    ▶ RIGHT — return ≥ +10% AND beat SPY by 5+ ✓ (return 34.1, vs SPY 44.0)
    · HALF — return ≥ +5% OR beat SPY at all
    · WRONG — everything else
  5. Credit: supporters of a RIGHT earn 1.0 each, opposers the opposite — this feeds the scoreboard. supported: Chamath, Sacks | opposed: Jason

Conviction timeline

bands: green ≥ 65 · watch ≥ 45 · ember ≥ 15

Plays vs SPY · % since first mention (2021-09-14)

Plays

expressionsymbolkindrelevancerationale
▼ SHORT TSMstock PRIMARY the fabs Chamath says the US would go to war over — the invasion risk sits directly on this listing
▼ SHORT SOXXetf adjacent the semi complex carries the same Taiwan concentration risk one layer removed

Mention log newest first

Jason
Jason politics-market 49% · n=61 · E90 (2022-08-05) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 42:29 OPPOSE
“I would agree with that. But explain why you think there's going to be a war, because I think a lot of people think there's way too much at stake here for there to be a war. So there is going to be some sort of negotiated settlement in the South China Sea.”
Sacks
Sacks politics-market 48% · n=87 · E90 (2022-08-05) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 42:12 SUPPORT
“I think there is bipartisan support now to defend Taiwan. I actually think that is in the cards. I think there's a very high probability that we actually end up in a war with China.”
Chamath
Chamath politics-market 51% · n=95 · E90 (2022-08-05) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 38:32 SUPPORT · horizon 6mo
“No, but so six months from now, when all the fruits and vegetables that have been embargoed and not sent to Taiwan and then the sand that allows them to make chips continues to now flow, do you think that they'll still be positive about the trip?”
Sacks
Sacks politics-market 48% · n=87 · E88 (2022-07-22) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 8:23 SUPPORT
“If chips are the new oil, Taiwan is the new Middle East or the new Persian Gulf, and it is a very dangerous situation for us to be completely dependent on Taiwan.”
Jason
Jason politics-market 49% · n=61 · E85 (2022-06-30) · sentiment · strength 1 ▶ 1:18:06 SUPPORT
“Okay, and you know what's also highly predictable? Is that China considers Taiwan a renegade province. ... it will be even worse with Taiwan. I mean, if we think that this is difficult. Can you imagine this kind of escalation with a capable adversary?”
Jason
Jason politics-market 49% · n=61 · E72 (2022-03-19) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 38:25 OPPOSE
“They would never consider invading Taiwan knowing that it would put Apple in a position or other companies that are entwined in the Chinese economy.”
Chamath
Chamath politics-market 51% · n=95 · E72 (2022-03-19) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 37:44 REVERSAL
“what do you think the China calculus on Taiwan is looking what's happening to Russia? ... It's completely off the table, completely off the table.”
Sacks
Sacks politics-market 48% · n=87 · E71 (2022-03-05) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 1:02:36 OPPOSE
“we can all support that because we know that Xi is watching. ... if Taiwan really wants to be independent, every adult there needs to learn how to fight and they need to have weapons.”
Jason
Jason politics-market 49% · n=61 · E71 (2022-03-05) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 1:01:15 SUPPORT
“we need to build an alliance to deal with the eventuality of China going into the South China Sea and taking over Taiwan.”
Chamath
Chamath politics-market 51% · n=95 · E66 (2022-02-05) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 1:36:34 SUPPORT
“So I think there is good news where part of the strategic vital interests for Taiwan is because they have critical resources that we need, and we depend on, and specifically those are semiconductors. We have now, I think, allocated 50, $100 billion of capital, of CapEx across a bunch of companies that have committed to building domestic capability.”
Sacks
Sacks politics-market 48% · n=87 · E66 (2022-02-05) · sentiment · strength 1 ▶ 1:36:25 SUPPORT
“Taiwan is a much more complicated situation. I do think we have a vital national interest there.”
Chamath
Chamath politics-market 51% · n=95 · E63 (2022-01-15) · sentiment · strength 1 ▶ 15:30 SUPPORT
“I care about the fact that our economy could turn on a dime if China invades Taiwan. I care about that.”
Chamath
Chamath politics-market 51% · n=95 · E55 (2021-11-13) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 1:06:46 SUPPORT
“his motivation will be, it seems, at least to bring China back into that spectrum of power, which is really about a consolidated country and a single nation state. And that has to include Taiwan. It can't it can't not. So to your point, David, it's almost more motivation for him to go off on some crazy adventure and try to reclaim it.”
Sacks
Sacks politics-market 48% · n=87 · E55 (2021-11-13) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 1:04:31 SUPPORT
“Yeah, what is the accomplishment that's going to really put him in that league? And you'd have to say it's the annexation of Taiwan. I mean, that's the thing that he must be looking to do before, you know, his time to reunify China. That's the thing that could put him in that league. ... And it's like the Persian Gulf because the new oil are the semiconductors, the chips that are fabbed in Taiwan at TSMC. And so all the resources that we're dependent on for the new economy are all right there.”
Jason
Jason politics-market 49% · n=61 · E55 (2021-11-13) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 52:24 SUPPORT
“I've been watching the Taiwan situation like a hawk. And I don't know if you saw this this week to go off on another tangent, but the US is testing Israelis Iron Dome and Guam as a defense against Chinese cruise missiles. Obviously, for possible deployment in Taiwan.”
Chamath
Chamath politics-market 51% · n=95 · E46 (2021-09-14) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 45:42 SUPPORT
“if they decide to cut us off, you know, in ours, they will invade Taiwan. I've said this before, but I think that they will. ... And we will have no choice except to deploy troops into Taiwan because in the absence of the silicon that we need from TSMC and a couple of other manufacturers there, we have zero capability here.”

Who built this conviction

each voice's total push on the score, in conviction points across every mention — supports and opposes · share = % of all mention-driven movement

Chamath
Chamath 51%
6 scoring events · 49% of moves
+74.0 / -31.1 → net +42.9
Jason
Jason 49%
5 scoring events · 26% of moves
+33.1 / -24.0 → net +9.1
Sacks
Sacks 48%
5 scoring events · 25% of moves
+41.6 / -12.0 → net +29.6

⏳ decay drained -51.3 over the idea's life — that's time passing, attributed to no one

Score events

episodekindΔafternote
E46 2021-09-14 init +42.0 42.0 E46 born by Chamath (explicit_prediction x3)
E47 2021-09-18 decay -1.7 40.3 E47 silent
E49 2021-10-02 decay -1.6 38.7 E49 silent
E50 2021-10-09 decay -1.5 37.2 E50 silent
E51 2021-10-16 decay -1.5 35.7 E51 silent
E52 2021-10-23 decay -1.4 34.2 E52 silent
E53 2021-10-30 decay -1.4 32.9 E53 silent
E54 2021-11-06 decay -1.3 31.6 E54 silent
E55 2021-11-13 reinforce +15.4 47.0 E55 Jason support x2 (new voice)
E55 2021-11-13 reinforce +11.9 58.9 E55 Sacks support x2 (new voice)
E55 2021-11-13 reinforce +7.4 66.3 E55 Chamath support x3
E56 2021-11-20 decay -2.7 63.6 E56 silent
E57 2021-12-04 decay -2.5 61.1 E57 silent
E58 2021-12-11 decay -2.4 58.7 E58 silent
E59 2021-12-17 decay -2.3 56.3 E59 silent
E60 2021-12-23 decay -2.3 54.1 E60 silent
E61 2021-12-29 decay -2.2 51.9 E61 silent
E62 2022-01-08 decay -2.1 49.8 E62 silent
E63 2022-01-15 reinforce +6.0 55.8 E63 Chamath support x1
E64 2022-01-22 decay -2.2 53.6 E64 silent
E65 2022-01-29 decay -2.1 51.5 E65 silent
E66 2022-02-05 reinforce +5.8 57.3 E66 Sacks support x1
E66 2022-02-05 reinforce +7.7 65.0 E66 Chamath support x3
E67 2022-02-12 decay -2.6 62.4 E67 silent
E68 2022-02-19 decay -2.5 59.9 E68 silent
E70 2022-02-24 decay -2.4 57.5 E70 silent
E71 2022-03-05 reinforce +6.4 63.9 E71 Jason support x2
E71 2022-03-05 oppose -12.0 51.9 E71 Sacks opposes x2
E72 2022-03-19 reversal -31.1 20.7 E72 Chamath flips
E72 2022-03-19 oppose -12.0 8.7 E72 Jason opposes x2
E73 2022-03-26 decay -0.3 8.4 E73 silent
E74 2022-04-01 decay -0.3 8.1 E74 silent
E75 2022-04-09 decay -0.3 7.7 E75 silent
E76 2022-04-16 decay -0.3 7.4 E76 silent
E77 2022-04-23 decay -0.3 7.1 E77 silent
E78 2022-04-30 decay -0.3 6.8 E78 silent
E79 2022-05-07 decay -0.3 6.6 E79 silent
E80 2022-05-13 decay -0.3 6.3 E80 silent
E81 2022-05-23 decay -0.3 6.1 E81 silent
E82 2022-05-24 decay -0.2 5.8 E82 silent
E84 2022-06-24 decay -0.2 5.6 E84 silent
E85 2022-06-30 reinforce +11.3 16.9 E85 Jason support x1 (flipped from oppose)
E86 2022-07-08 decay -0.7 16.2 E86 silent
E87 2022-07-14 decay -0.6 15.6 E87 silent
E88 2022-07-22 reinforce +12.7 28.2 E88 Sacks support x2 (flipped from oppose)
E89 2022-07-29 decay -1.1 27.1 E89 silent
E90 2022-08-05 reinforce +10.9 38.1 E90 Chamath support x2 (flipped from reversal)
E90 2022-08-05 reinforce +11.2 49.2 E90 Sacks support x3
E90 2022-08-05 oppose -12.0 37.2 E90 Jason opposes x2
E91 2022-08-13 decay -1.5 35.7 E91 silent
E92 2022-08-20 decay -1.4 34.3 E92 silent
E93 2022-08-26 decay -1.4 32.9 E93 silent
E94 2022-09-01 decay -1.3 31.6 E94 silent
E95 2022-09-10 decay -1.3 30.3 E95 silent