E46
E46: False Ivermectin narratives, regulatory grift, wartime mentality in solving issues & more
2021-09-14 spoken.md · speaker-labeled ▶ watch ← E45 all episodes E47 →
3
ideas born
7
ideas moved
11
captures · 3 voices
0
dissenting
+176.7
conviction added
-83.6
decay · 79 silent
Every number here is replayed from score_events — the same ledger the pool ranks on. Decay is what the 79 ideas nobody mentioned gave up this week; it applies only when an episode is processed.
Tier crossings
conviction thresholds crossed by this episode — 65 / 45 / 15 · ideas born here show where they landed. why 65 isn't always green
▲ +9.3
🌍 Resilience beats efficiency - supply chains get de-centralized and reshored
ember
→
watch
41.5 → 50.9
▲ +35.7
🏛️ Infrastructure-bill tax credits make the captured solar incumbents rip
born at
ember
35.7
▲ +35.4
🏛️ Regulatory and IP capture keeps US healthcare incumbents' rents intact
born at
ember
35.4
Kill dates that landed since E45
2 hit · 0 partial · 1 miss — windows that closed after 2021-09-04 and up to 2021-09-14, auto-scored against price data and never hand-set. verdict · R · α
| idea | verdict | R | α | closed |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 🌍 Fed at zero for half a decade — get paid to be long equities | HIT | +34.1% | +0.0 | 2021-09-09 |
| 📈 IPO 2.0: the Chamath SPAC complex | HIT | +45.0% | +10.9 | 2021-09-09 |
| 🌍 US labor boom: unemployment to 3-4% within two quarters | MISS | +4.6% | -14.9 | 2021-09-06 |
Who moved the board
each voice's force on conviction this episode — supports and opposes, weighted exactly as the replay applied them · share = % of this episode's movement
What got argued (7 ideas)
ordered by how hard each idea moved · quotes are verbatim from the transcript, timestamps deep-link into the episode
NEW
▼ TSM
🏛️ China takes Taiwan and the silicon chokepoint forces US intervention
closed 30
CONTESTED
▲ +42.9
0.0 → 42.9
Chamath's standing call, repeated here: China is becoming a fully vertically integrated state that exports critical technology building blocks with no recourse for the buyer, and it will invade Taiwan. Because the US has zero domestic capability without TSMC and a couple of other Taiwanese fabs, Washington would have no choice but to deploy troops. Taiwan-concentrated semiconductor supply therefore carries a geopolitical tail risk that is not in the price.
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TSM ·primary
SOXX
evals 2022-09-14
if they decide to cut us off, you know, in ours, they will invade Taiwan. I've said this before, but I think that they will. ... And we will have no choice except to deploy troops into Taiwan because in the absence of the silicon that we need from TSMC and a couple of other manufacturers there, we have zero capability here.
NEW
▲ RUN
🏛️ Infrastructure-bill tax credits make the captured solar incumbents rip
closed 34
▲ +35.7
0.0 → 35.7
The climate tax credits inside the infrastructure/reconciliation package are allocated by lobbying rather than by climate impact — doubled and tripled in some places, disallowed in others — and when you follow the dollars they map to large public companies with big balance sheets and big lobbying budgets, i.e. the residential-solar oligopoly (Sun Run, Sun Power) rather than nuclear or direct air capture. Chamath's read of the Street on the day the credits were unveiled: if the bill passes as written, those stocks rip, and the market-cap-to-lobbying flywheel keeps spinning.
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RUN ·primary
SPWR
TAN
evals 2022-09-14
And where does all the tax credits and tax dollars go? Sun Run, Sun Power. These are companies that basically have this oligopolistic stranglehold on essentially installing solar panels and battery walls in homes across the United States. ... if this bill passes as written, you're going to see these stocks rip
NEW
▲ UNH
🏛️ Regulatory and IP capture keeps US healthcare incumbents' rents intact
closed 5
▲ +35.4
0.0 → 35.4
Obamacare's gross-margin cap inverted the incentive: if you can only keep 20%, you take 20% of a bigger number, so every US healthcare company's only move is to walk prices up — which is why UnitedHealthcare out-compounded big tech for a decade. The same capture holds elsewhere in healthcare: the FDA approval gate plus federal purchasing hands diagnostics incumbents repeated taxpayer-funded paydays instead of 50-cent tests, and expired patents don't open up next-gen sequencing because Illumina can litigate. The captured incumbents, not the challengers, keep earning the excess return.
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UNH ·primary
ABT
ILMN
evals 2022-09-14
they invite Abbott and they invite the guys in and they're like, you know, the White House, they have a consortium meeting, and everyone's kind of a little bit chuckling about this, like, oh, this is awesome. It's another $2 billion payday, which is what they just got. ... you end up with a $30 test when in Germany, you can go buy a 50 cent test at any liquor store
it completely burned the incentives for any health care company in the United States to do anything other than just basically walk prices up ... you would have made more money being along UnitedHealthcare than you would have been owning Facebook, Google, any of these other tech companies in the last decade
I think politics has done more to rekindle my interest in all things technology, and specifically Web 3 and DeFi, than anything else, because these last four years have completely convinced me that we need to find a very decentralized way of building the future. ... So when you add all these three things together, I think to me it's the most incredibly positively disruptive force I have seen. I think it will destroy wealth. I frankly couldn't give a fuck.
We should clearly allow it because this whole crypto stack, this whole decentralized finance stack that's being built could very well be the future of finance. And we certainly want to be ahead of that curve. ... I think we want America to be on the forefront of that technology wave, just like every other technology wave.
▲ PAVE
🌍 Resilience beats efficiency - supply chains get de-centralized and reshored
closed 63
CONTESTED
▲ +9.3
41.5 → 50.9
when you guys hear an Intel press release that says they're investing 90 fucking billion dollars, do you not think where does Intel come up with 90 billion dollars? ... This is a pull through from US government because it allows us to start to rebuild an enormous amount of critical infrastructure that we've left to other people.
▼ KWEB
🏛️ China goes for the jugular on its own tech founders
closed 25
CONTESTED
▲ +9.2
66.6 → 75.8
China is basically becoming a completely vertically integrated government where the public and private sector has no real clear delineation ... China is systematically decomposing and basically destabilizing all the China Internet companies. They're going to control and inbound all of the critical resources.
look at what Washington is about to do. They want to stomp on all this innovation. I mean, they want to jack up the cap gains rate to the same, to higher than ordinary income. ... Now, that's not going to pass, thankfully, because we got Joe Manchin, but that's about it.
Episode digest
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Live episode taped in front of an audience at Friedberg's Production Board Symposium (his org, his intro), which changes the register — long monologues, audience polls, no bestie bag-talk and no disclosed positions. The first 20 minutes (Rolling Stone's fabricated ivermectin-overdose story, Rachel Maddow, Facebook's 'cross check' whitelist from the WSJ) is pure media criticism with no instrument attached and was deliberately not captured; likewise the ~15 minutes on vaccine mandates (Chamath supports a narrow one and invokes the War Measures Act; Sacks says a hard mandate on 100M private employees would 'cause, I think, chaos in the economy' — a real directional macro claim but with no instrument, so left uncaptured), the Afghanistan-vs-VC $2T comparison, senator pay, and Friedberg's century-scale techno-optimism. What IS tradeable is the regulatory-grift block from 21:00-29:00, and it is the best material in the episode. Friedberg: the FDA gate plus federal purchasing is why Abbott just booked 'another $2 billion payday' (with Washington paying Walmart the wholesale-retail spread) while Germany sells 50-cent tests in liquor stores — and you cannot legally print a cheap diagnostic in the US without FDA approval. Chamath extends it: Obamacare's gross-margin cap made walking prices up the only rational move, which is why UnitedHealthcare beat Facebook and Google over the decade; and Illumina's patents expired last week but next-gen sequencing still cannot have a thousand flowers bloom because Illumina sues and wins. Those three got folded into ONE new bullish politics-market idea (UNH primary, ABT/ILMN adjacent) rather than three near-duplicate slugs. Separately captured: Chamath's concrete conditional on the infrastructure-bill climate credits — 'follow the dollars' and they land on Sun Run and Sun Power, not nuclear or direct air capture, and 'if this bill passes as written, you're going to see these stocks rip' (new idea, RUN primary). Jason's Tesla receipt (the proposed $12,000 EV credit is $4,500 less for a non-union shop) and Sacks' agreement ('this is to serve the unions. It's not to serve clean energy or the EV industry') were considered and rejected as mentions — both are news restatement plus a corruption verdict with no directional price claim, and attaching them to a RUN- or UNH-primary idea would credit them with calls they did not make. Reinforced from the existing 2021 board: Chamath repeats his Taiwan-invasion call ('I've said this before, but I think that they will') and ties it to the TSMC chokepoint and US troop deployment — spun out as its own bearish idea since nothing on the board covers Taiwan — and in the same breath supports reshoring by claiming Intel's $90B capex is a US-government pull-through to rebuild critical infrastructure (mention on supply-chain-resilience-reshoring-2021). The CCP breaking up Alipay's business drew support mentions on china-purges-tech-founders-2021 from Chamath (China becoming a 'completely vertically integrated government', systematically destabilizing its internet companies and inbounding critical resources) and Sacks (oligarchs under the CCP's thumb, and it's about the Alipay credit data). Biggest single change on the board: Sacks FLIPPED on the cap-gains hike. In E030 he took the other side of Chamath at strength 3, arguing a big increase rides through on the second infrastructure bill; here he says 'that's not going to pass, thankfully, because we got Joe Manchin' — logged as a support mention on cap-gains-hike-dies-2021, not a 'reversal' stance, because Chamath was the original proposer, but it is a genuine reversal of Sacks' own E030 position and worth noting on the idea page. Chamath separately reads out the House proposal (cap gains 20 to 25, corporate to 26.5) but explicitly declines a view — 'Whether it's good or bad, who knows? Time will tell' — so no mention on biden-tax-package-cut-down-2021 even though those numbers vindicate its thesis. The closing crypto segment is the second-richest: all three besties land on the same side of defi-financializes-all-assets-2021 — Chamath says politics rekindled his interest in Web3/DeFi and calls it 'the most incredibly positively disruptive force I have seen' while conceding 'I think it will destroy wealth' and citing Solana projects seeded with a few million now at $60-80B; Friedberg brings the retail receipt (every contractor working on his house is trading crypto and doesn't trust the dollar) but dismisses NFTs and crypto bubbles as 'short lived bubbles... little feedback loops'; Sacks says the DeFi stack 'could very well be the future of finance.' Two explicit predictions were deliberately NOT captured for lack of any mappable instrument: Friedberg's self-labelled 'I'll make a prediction. My prediction is in the next 20 years, the DeFi movement will catalyze a movement against the open Internet' (real prediction, 20-year stated horizon, direction on COIN or anything else genuinely ambiguous, and a 2041 kill date would sit open forever), and Chamath's 'we've taken so many steps backwards from nuclear, that it's probably just going to take decades' — bearish on SMR/fusion deployment, but the only 2021 nuclear tickers (URA, CCJ, LEU) track uranium fuel prices, which were ripping for unrelated reasons, so mapping it would have produced an actively wrong score. Also noted but uncaptured: Sacks' deficit rant (2.7T YTD, 28T total, 'special interest plunder') never connects to prices or inflation, so it is not a mention on stimulus-drives-inflation-2021; and Chamath discloses he is 'working with a team' on a small-form energy-generation project with no public instrument. Label check: roster count is clean (Jason 84, Chamath 77, Friedberg 73, Sacks 40, plus four audience SPEAKER_N labels) and the swap detector PASSES — every name-addressed handoff resolves to the right speaker ('You were following this, Chamath' -> Chamath; 'what do you think, Sacks?' -> Sacks twice; 'Friedberg, how far are we away from small nuclear reactors' -> Friedberg, who then refers to Chamath in the third person; 'Can I ask you a question, Sacks?' from Chamath -> Sacks; 'Thoughts, Chamath?' -> Chamath). Two cosmetic anomalies: Friedberg is labelled 'Eric Friedberg' throughout (his name is David), and Jason's setup at 36:26 ('So, Chamath, is it possible...') is answered by a turn labelled Friedberg — content confirms it really is Friedberg interjecting before Chamath answers the same question at 38:18, so it is an interjection, not a swap. Read to the final turn at 1:12:27.