E113: DOJ tries to break up Google, vaccine questions, Ukraine escalation & more
2023-01-27 spoken.md · speaker-labeled ▶ watch ← E112 all episodes E114 →
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Tier crossings
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Kill dates that landed since E112
0 hit · 0 partial · 1 miss — windows that closed after 2023-01-20 and up to 2023-01-27, auto-scored against price data and never hand-set. verdict · R · α
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| 📈 Tech drawdown is in the eighth inning - the bottom is close | MISS | -19.4% | -10.9 | 2023-01-22 |
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What got argued (12 ideas)
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The mRNA COVID vaccines' failure to stop transmission, their two-month efficacy window and the emerging myocarditis safety signal turn into a credibility scandal for Pfizer/Moderna and for public-health authority generally. All four besties say on the record they will never be boosted again, Sacks calls for a distrust spillover onto routine vaccination and Chamath wants a commission to reopen the whole file. The tradeable read-through is a shrinking booster franchise plus reputational, litigation and inquiry overhang on the mRNA makers.
Larry Fink's Davos estimate of $750B of Ukrainian reconstruction sets up the Iraq playbook — first the war machine, then the reconstruction machine, trillions in aggregate. Friedberg's mechanism: the money flows through infrastructure funds financed by long-term debt assumed by the region, and the beneficiaries are the funds' owners and investors plus the contractors and equipment makers doing the work. The trade is the grift and the capex, not the recovery.
Well, yeah, where Larry Fink was like, hey, they're going to need three quarters of a trillion dollars of reconstruction support. We saw that play out in Iraq as well, where at first it was the war machine, and then it was the reconstruction machine, and together it was trillions and trillions of dollars.
Those are called infrastructure funds. And those infrastructure funds raise hundreds of billions of dollars to make investments, to build new infrastructure in markets that need it and that are willing to pay for it. And it will likely end up being kind of long-term debt assumed by that region to pay to do this work, and the beneficiaries will be the investors and owners of those infrastructure funds.
My position is I think they want to have an outcome. And their outcome is they want to stick it to big tech because it's too powerful. And then you just said yourself, square peg, round hole. They're trying to find something to get Google on. This is not it.
The second thing is that if you had done this chart many years ago, Amazon would not have really even been there. And over the last five years, they represent almost 12% of the entire market. And it means that if you forecast it forward, they could be at 15 to 20% in a few years as well.
I think that this bundling behavior is a form of dumping, where in the short run, it looks like consumers are benefiting because they're getting a Zoom clone for free or a Slack clone for free. But then what happens is once they've hobbled those companies, they raise the price of the bundle.
But if you're a social network or if you're some deep machine-learned thing that basically generates great search results, that's much harder to copy because more and more of the product and what generates the product quality is underneath the waterline.
that change is now going to make this hit very, very hard beginning in 2024 So the ad networks themselves are already being massively hurt by Apple's ID changes, the third party cookies being removed. It's becoming harder to target consumers, harder to make money for publishers.
There's two other things that they really should be looking at as these ad networks are losing their market share in the overall digital ad spend. There are two other players, Disney and Netflix doing these digital ads on their platforms and having ad tiers. And then you may have noticed Uber is doing an ad business now.
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Sacks guest-moderated (Jason was under the weather and had the besties vote him in on Twitter), which is why Sacks carries 113 turns to Jason's 78 — labels are CLEAN, and SPEAKER_4 is clip audio of the Rebel News reporter ambushing Pfizer's Albert Bourla at Davos, not a fifth voice. All four trashed the DOJ's ad-tech suit against Google filed three days earlier: Chamath table-pounded that it is punitive rather than principled, brought a Bloomberg share chart (GOOGL 26.5%, others 43.4%, META 18.4%, AMZN 11.7%) and predicted it gets deconstructed the way the Texas version did, while conceding search itself and the iOS/Android app-store duopoly ARE real monopolies the DOJ should have gone after instead. The Microsoft/Teams EU probe opened a genuine three-on-one fight — Sacks (bundling is dumping) and Chamath (Slack board receipts: 'superior distribution' always beats a better product) against Friedberg, who argued if your product is copyable you deserve to lose, which also had him restating his own social-moats-fragment thesis and defending Google search as won on merit. Three new ideas coined: a COVID-vaccine trust collapse (all four declared on record they will never boost again; Sacks predicts spillover distrust onto routine vaccination, Chamath wants a commission), a Ukraine reconstruction windfall off Larry Fink's $750B Davos number run through the Iraq playbook, and Friedberg's science-corner call that the epigenome — not DNA mutation — drives aging, with an explicit ten-year investable framing. On Ukraine, Chamath said the endgame wheels are turning toward a negotiated settlement and Jason agreed; Sacks took the direct other side that the true believers are on top and escalation is unbounded, and Friedberg put tactical nukes and a Franz Ferdinand moment squarely in play.