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📈 SoftBank survives the Vision Fund blowup - Masa gets to swing again

Contrarian read on the $21B+ Vision Fund quarterly loss: SoftBank is structurally fine and the equity recovers. More than half of the sovereign LP money sits in preferred equity paying a coupon rather than common, SoftBank has already sold down 25% of its Alibaba stake through forwards and derivatives to manage liquidity, and Masa has a fifty-year record of coming back from 99% drawdowns. One more hit, or an Alibaba recovery, closes the gap between the $66B market cap and the underlying assets.

0 CONVICTION
peaked 34.4 EMBER
EMBER
band
▲ LONG SFTBY
expression · bullish equities
HALF
result · return +6.1% · vs SPY +0.5%
2023-08-13
born 2022-08-13 (E91) → window closed

⚖ Why this result

fully deterministic — computed from daily closes on the scoring date; nothing below is editable or hand-set

  1. Window: 2022-08-13 → 2023-08-13 — first mention + 12-month horizon, then the window locks.
  2. The call: ▲ LONG SFTBY (primary play). SFTBY rose 6.1% over the window → return (sign flipped for a SHORT) = +6.1% (the call made money).
  3. Benchmark: holding SPY over the same window returned +5.6% → vs SPY = +6.1 − (+5.6) = +0.5% — what this call made or lost against just owning the index. This is the number the result uses.
  4. Rule fired:
    · RIGHT — return ≥ +10% AND beat SPY by 5+
    ▶ HALF — return ≥ +5% OR beat SPY at all
    · WRONG — everything else
  5. Credit: supporters of a HALF earn 0.5 each, opposers the opposite — this feeds the scoreboard. supported: Chamath, Jason | proxy-sensitive: BABA→MISS (+1.6%)

Conviction timeline

bands: green ≥ 65 · watch ≥ 45 · ember ≥ 15

Plays vs SPY · % since first mention (2022-08-13)

Plays

expressionsymbolkindrelevancerationale
▲ LONG SFTBYstock PRIMARY SoftBank Group ADR - the direct expression of the 'Masa survives' call
▲ LONG BABAstock adjacent SoftBank's largest remaining asset; Jason's stated recovery path is Alibaba doubling

Mention log newest first

Chamath
Chamath equities 42% · n=163 · E133 (2023-06-16) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 12:34 SUPPORT
“First of all, Jason, I don't think the point about SoftBank needs saving is necessarily true. It's not a company that needs saving, but they've certainly taken some hits.”
Jason
Jason equities 49% · n=105 · E91 (2022-08-13) · sentiment · strength 1 ▶ 36:28 SUPPORT · horizon 12mo
“we could be sitting here next year. Alibaba could double in value. A couple of their other positions could recover 50%.”
Chamath
Chamath equities 42% · n=163 · E91 (2022-08-13) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 6:53 SUPPORT
“SoftBank has found a way to sell down 25% of Alibaba, which is no trivial feat for half a trillion dollar company. This guy gets to keep swinging and if he hits it one more time, he'll end up with half a trillion.”

Who built this conviction

each voice's total push on the score, in conviction points across every mention — supports and opposes · share = % of all mention-driven movement

Chamath
Chamath 42%
2 scoring events · 70% of moves
+33.9 → net +33.9
Jason
Jason 49%
1 scoring event · 30% of moves
+14.4 → net +14.4

⏳ decay drained -32.4 over the idea's life — that's time passing, attributed to no one

Score events

episodekindΔafternote
E91 2022-08-13 init +20.0 20.0 E91 born by Chamath (sentiment x2)
E91 2022-08-13 reinforce +14.4 34.4 E91 Jason support x1 (new voice)
E92 2022-08-20 decay -1.4 33.0 E92 silent
E93 2022-08-26 decay -1.3 31.7 E93 silent
E94 2022-09-01 decay -1.3 30.4 E94 silent
E95 2022-09-10 decay -1.2 29.2 E95 silent
E96 2022-09-17 decay -1.2 28.0 E96 silent
E97 2022-09-23 decay -1.1 26.9 E97 silent
E98 2022-10-01 decay -1.1 25.8 E98 silent
E99 2022-10-07 decay -1.0 24.8 E99 silent
E100 2022-10-14 decay -1.0 23.8 E100 silent
E101 2022-10-22 decay -1.0 22.9 E101 silent
E102 2022-10-29 decay -0.9 22.0 E102 silent
E103 2022-11-05 decay -0.9 21.1 E103 silent
E105 2022-11-19 decay -0.8 20.2 E105 silent
E106 2022-12-03 decay -0.8 19.4 E106 silent
E107 2022-12-10 decay -0.8 18.6 E107 silent
E108 2022-12-16 decay -0.7 17.9 E108 silent
E109 2022-12-24 decay -0.7 17.2 E109 silent
E110 2023-01-06 decay -0.7 16.5 E110 silent
E111 2023-01-13 decay -0.7 15.8 E111 silent
E112 2023-01-20 decay -0.6 15.2 E112 silent
E113 2023-01-27 decay -0.6 14.6 E113 silent
E114 2023-02-04 decay -0.6 14.0 E114 silent
E115 2023-02-11 decay -0.6 13.5 E115 silent
E116 2023-02-17 decay -0.5 12.9 E116 silent
E118 2023-03-03 decay -0.5 12.4 E118 silent
E119 2023-03-11 decay -0.5 11.9 E119 silent
E120 2023-03-17 decay -0.5 11.4 E120 silent
E121 2023-03-24 decay -0.5 11.0 E121 silent
E122 2023-03-31 decay -0.4 10.5 E122 silent
E123 2023-04-07 decay -0.4 10.1 E123 silent
E124 2023-04-14 decay -0.4 9.7 E124 silent
E125 2023-04-21 decay -0.4 9.3 E125 silent
E126 2023-04-28 decay -0.4 8.9 E126 silent
E128 2023-05-12 decay -0.4 8.6 E128 silent
E129 2023-05-19 decay -0.3 8.2 E129 silent
E130 2023-05-26 decay -0.3 7.9 E130 silent
E131 2023-06-02 decay -0.3 7.6 E131 silent
E132 2023-06-10 decay -0.3 7.3 E132 silent
E133 2023-06-16 reinforce +13.9 21.2 E133 Chamath support x2
E134 2023-06-24 decay -0.8 20.4 E134 silent
E135 2023-07-01 decay -0.8 19.5 E135 silent
E136 2023-07-09 decay -0.8 18.8 E136 silent
E137 2023-07-14 decay -0.8 18.0 E137 silent
E139 2023-07-27 decay -0.7 17.3 E139 silent
E140 2023-08-04 decay -0.7 16.6 E140 silent
E141 2023-08-11 decay -0.7 15.9 E141 silent