📈 SVB failure triggers deposit flight out of the regional banks
SVB's seizure destroys confidence in uninsured business deposits, so depositors rationally pull cash out of every regional bank and park it at JP Morgan or another of the top four. Because held-to-maturity bonds are carried at book value (the WSJ puts system-wide unrealized treasury losses at $620B), nobody can assess a regional bank's solvency, so the run is self-fulfilling. Sacks' call: without a federal backstop the regional banking system gets decimated and the US is left with four too-big-to-fail banks. Chamath reads the contagion straight off the regional-bank ETF's equity tier falling off a cliff and asks 'what's to prevent bank number 35?'
⚖ Why this verdict
fully deterministic — evaluate.py replays this from daily closes; nothing below is editable or hand-set
- Window: 2023-03-11 → 2024-03-11 — first mention + 12-month horizon, then the window locks.
- The call: ▼ SHORT KRE (primary play). KRE rose 14.8% over the window → direction-adjusted R = -14.8% (the call lost money).
- Benchmark: holding SPY over the same window returned +34.7%
→ α = -14.8 − (+34.7) = -49.5%
— what this call made or lost against just owning the index. This is the number the verdict uses.
Stock-selection read: +19.8% — did KRE move the predicted way relative to the market. The two only differ on a SHORT: this call was right about direction relative to the index but still cost money versus holding it.
- Rule fired:
· HIT — R ≥ +10% AND α ≥ +5· PARTIAL — R ≥ +5% OR α ≥ 0▶ MISS — everything else
- Credit: supporters of a MISS earn 0 each, opposers the inverse — this feeds the scoreboard weights. supported: Chamath, Friedberg, Jason, Sacks
Conviction timeline
bands: green ≥ 65 · watch ≥ 45 · ember ≥ 15
Plays vs SPY · % since first mention (2023-03-11)
Plays
| expression | symbol | kind | relevance | rationale |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| ▼ SHORT | KRE | etf | PRIMARY | iShares regional banking ETF — literally the instrument Chamath pulled up on screen as his contagion proxy ('This is the iShares Regional Banks ETF'). Used as a PROXY because the faithful single names have no usable series: SIVB was halted and delisted, SBNY was seized two days after this taping, and FRC failed in May 2023. |
| ▼ SHORT | JPM | stock | adjacent | named repeatedly as the DESTINATION of the deposit flight ('why the hell would you keep your money anywhere but JP Morgan or a top four bank') — this is the other side of the trade and should not be read as confirming the bearish direction |
| ▼ SHORT | KBE | etf | adjacent | SPDR bank ETF — broader second read on the same deposit-flight thesis, also a proxy |
| ▼ SHORT | XLF | etf | adjacent | broad financials — the systemic version of the claim |
Mention log
“So I think there's a chance that if the federal government doesn't step in here, the whole regional banking system could be decimated, and you're just going to be left with four too big to fail banks.”
“Folks, when you look at the equity tier of these regional banks, people are liquidating the equity tier because they know that that is the first domino to fall if banks go into receivership. Please act accordingly. You can see it in the ETFs. You can see it in the trade flows. This is not a Silicon Valley problem anymore.”
“Because then you will see a lot of people trying to move money away from any institution that stores their money in some sort of security that's not 100% liquid like cash. And that's going to cause a massive run.”
“However, it has also now, I think, created a situation where people are less confident about them. And so the money flows are going from the regional banks to the systemically important banks, the SIBs.”
“The banks are saying we don't have enough liquidity right now to cover our needs, which are highly volatile right now because basically depositors are moving out of community and regional and small banks into the big four so-called systemically important or CIP banks.”
“One was these long dated bonds having unrealized losses, which is causing problems in regional community banks. The second piece of it is the commercial real estate crisis, which I think is metastasizing right now, which is also going to be a banking crisis once all those unrealized losses come due.”
“I mean, if you saw what happened around the whole banking crisis that I think is still going on in slow motion, I mean, the amount of animosity both towards the banks that went under and the idea of potentially bailing them out, and then also the animosity towards JP Morgan when it actually bought First Republic.”
“Well, book value is a term that you need to put in quotes. So my question would be, what are the rules around the real mark to market? Because I think that when we talked about the banking crisis, the biggest problem was these guys were playing fast and loose with valuations.”
Who built this conviction
each voice's total force on the score — supports and opposes from every mention, weighted exactly as the replay applied them · share = % of all mention-driven movement
⏳ decay drained -79.1 over the idea's life — that's time passing, attributed to no one
Score events
| episode | kind | Δ | after | note |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| E119 2023-03-11 | init | +37.2 | 37.2 | E119 born by Sacks (explicit_prediction x3) [w=0.89] |
| E119 2023-03-11 | reinforce | +12.2 | 49.4 | E119 Friedberg support x2 (new voice) [w=0.87] |
| E119 2023-03-11 | reinforce | +11.1 | 60.5 | E119 Jason support x2 (new voice) [w=0.97] |
| E119 2023-03-11 | reinforce | +8.9 | 69.4 | E119 Chamath support x3 (new voice) [w=0.84] |
| E120 2023-03-17 | reinforce | +4.9 | 74.3 | E120 Sacks support x3 [w=0.89] |
| E120 2023-03-17 | reinforce | +3.2 | 77.5 | E120 Chamath support x2 [w=0.84] |
| E121 2023-03-24 | reinforce | +3.6 | 81.1 | E121 Sacks support x3 [w=0.89] |
| E121 2023-03-24 | reinforce | +2.4 | 83.5 | E121 Chamath support x2 [w=0.84] |
| E122 2023-03-31 | decay | -3.3 | 80.1 | E122 silent |
| E123 2023-04-07 | reinforce | +2.6 | 82.8 | E123 Sacks support x2 [w=0.89] |
| E124 2023-04-14 | decay | -3.3 | 79.5 | E124 silent |
| E125 2023-04-21 | decay | -3.2 | 76.3 | E125 silent |
| E126 2023-04-28 | decay | -3.1 | 73.2 | E126 silent |
| E128 2023-05-12 | reinforce | +3.6 | 76.8 | E128 Sacks support x2 [w=0.89] |
| E129 2023-05-19 | decay | -3.1 | 73.7 | E129 silent |
| E130 2023-05-26 | decay | -2.9 | 70.8 | E130 silent |
| E131 2023-06-02 | reinforce | +3.9 | 74.7 | E131 Sacks support x2 [w=0.89] |
| E132 2023-06-10 | decay | -3.0 | 71.7 | E132 silent |
| E133 2023-06-16 | decay | -2.9 | 68.8 | E133 silent |
| E134 2023-06-24 | decay | -2.8 | 66.0 | E134 silent |
| E135 2023-07-01 | decay | -2.6 | 63.4 | E135 silent |
| E136 2023-07-09 | decay | -2.5 | 60.9 | E136 silent |
| E137 2023-07-14 | decay | -2.4 | 58.4 | E137 silent |
| E139 2023-07-27 | decay | -2.3 | 56.1 | E139 silent |
| E140 2023-08-04 | decay | -2.2 | 53.9 | E140 silent |
| E141 2023-08-11 | decay | -2.2 | 51.7 | E141 silent |
| E142 2023-08-18 | decay | -2.1 | 49.6 | E142 silent |
| E143 2023-08-25 | decay | -2.0 | 47.6 | E143 silent |
| E144 2023-09-01 | decay | -1.9 | 45.7 | E144 silent |
| E146 2023-09-22 | decay | -1.8 | 43.9 | E146 silent |
| E147 2023-09-29 | decay | -1.8 | 42.2 | E147 silent |
| E148 2023-10-07 | decay | -1.7 | 40.5 | E148 silent |
| E149 2023-10-13 | decay | -1.6 | 38.8 | E149 silent |
| E150 2023-10-20 | decay | -1.6 | 37.3 | E150 silent |
| E151 2023-10-27 | reinforce | +8.3 | 45.6 | E151 Sacks support x2 [w=0.89] |
| E152 2023-11-03 | reinforce | +6.8 | 52.5 | E152 Chamath support x2 [w=0.84] |
| E156 2023-12-08 | decay | -2.1 | 50.4 | E156 silent |
| E157 2023-12-16 | decay | -2.0 | 48.3 | E157 silent |
| E158 2023-12-23 | decay | -1.9 | 46.4 | E158 silent |
| E159 2023-12-29 | decay | -1.9 | 44.6 | E159 silent |
| E160 2024-01-06 | decay | -1.8 | 42.8 | E160 silent |
| E161 2024-01-13 | decay | -1.7 | 41.1 | E161 silent |
| E162 2024-01-19 | decay | -1.6 | 39.4 | E162 silent |
| E163 2024-01-26 | decay | -1.6 | 37.8 | E163 silent |
| E164 2024-02-02 | decay | -1.5 | 36.3 | E164 silent |
| E165 2024-02-09 | decay | -1.5 | 34.9 | E165 silent |
| E166 2024-02-16 | decay | -1.4 | 33.5 | E166 silent |
| E167 2024-02-23 | decay | -1.3 | 32.1 | E167 silent |
| E168 2024-03-01 | decay | -1.3 | 30.9 | E168 silent |
| E169 2024-03-08 | decay | -1.2 | 29.6 | E169 silent |