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🏦 Inflation may not show up — breakevens are rolling over

Chamath's 10-year breakeven check has come down to ~2.42% over 18 days and Washington is walking back the size of the spending package, so the inflation scare fades and duration is the beneficiary.

0 CONVICTION
peaked 66.9 GREEN
EMBER
band · contested
▲ LONG TLT
expression · bullish rates
MISS
outcome · R -14.4% · α -14.1%
2022-05-31
window closed
⚠ CONFLICTING IDEA ON THE SAME TICKER — the board is arguing with itself; net it before trading (ticker view →)
TLT · US fiscal spiral keeps long-end yields grinding higher SHORT GREEN 67.5 ← stronger than this idea (18.7)

also touching these tickers, same direction: Fed easing + disinflation into 2026 11 (TLT)

⚖ Why this verdict

fully deterministic — evaluate.py replays this from daily closes; nothing below is editable or hand-set

  1. Window: 2021-05-31 → 2022-05-31 — first mention + 12-month horizon, then the window locks.
  2. The call: ▲ LONG TLT (primary play). TLT fell 14.4% over the window → direction-adjusted R = -14.4% (the call lost money).
  3. Benchmark: holding SPY over the same window returned -0.3%α = -14.4 − (-0.3) = -14.1% — what this call made or lost against just owning the index. This is the number the verdict uses.
  4. Rule fired:
    · HIT — R ≥ +10% AND α ≥ +5
    · PARTIAL — R ≥ +5% OR α ≥ 0
    ▶ MISS — everything else
  5. Credit: supporters of a MISS earn 0 each, opposers the inverse — this feeds the scoreboard weights. supported: Brad Gerstner, Jason | opposed: Chamath, Friedberg, Sacks

Conviction timeline

bands: green ≥ 65 · watch ≥ 45 · ember ≥ 15

Plays vs SPY · % since first mention (2021-05-31)

Plays

expressionsymbolkindrelevancerationale
▲ LONG TLTetf PRIMARY long-duration Treasuries rally if the inflation impulse fails to materialize
▲ LONG IEFetf adjacent belly of the curve, same disinflation expression with less duration risk

Mention log

Chamath
Chamath rates w=0.88 · n=16 · E34 (2021-05-31) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 1:04:16 SUPPORT
“One last thing for you guys, on a market check, my 10-year break evens, remember, we're now down to 242 It's been 18 days. ... My little inflation check, my little inflation check. And it seems like things are trending in the right direction.”
Sacks
Sacks rates w=1.08 · n=12 · E34 (2021-05-31) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 1:05:07 SUPPORT
“Well, I think what happened, Chamath, is you put it well, I think a couple of pods ago, the market sent a signal to Biden that, look, this is too much taxing, too much spending. It's too inflationary. ... So I think there's less inflationary pressure coming out of Washington, hopefully.”
Friedberg
Friedberg rates w=0.79 · n=14 · E40 (2021-07-16) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 25:40 SUPPORT
“We were afraid of inflation. Lumber prices today, by the way, are lower than they were when this whole kind of inflationary thing started and everyone was freaking out about it. So, you know, lumber prices are lower than they were at the start of the year, which is, you know, like a lot of this kind of inflation risk has kind of come out of the equation already. So, the markets have taken that pricing out.”
Chamath
Chamath rates w=0.88 · n=16 · E53 (2021-10-30) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 34:44 REVERSAL
“The thing that I have struggled with the most in these last few weeks is trying to come to a conclusion on inflation. My worry is that it's here and it will be persistent. ... And so I think what we've created is a really distortive inflationary cycle that's going to really hurt the United States because as Sacks talked about, we cannot print enough money to pay for the debt when interest rates go up.”
Chamath
Chamath rates w=0.88 · n=16 · E55 (2021-11-13) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 8:59 REVERSAL
“We have inflation at a 30 year high. We have 10 year break evens at a 25 year high. ... So I think that it's a it's this is the beginning of a persistence.”
Friedberg
Friedberg rates w=0.79 · n=14 · E57 (2021-12-04) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 38:42 SUPPORT · horizon 12mo
“I just sent you a link to freight rates for cargo ships coming from China to LA. ... It's dropped by 50% and it's continuing to drop week after week right now. And we're seeing the same in lumber prices right now. ... these pricing issues that we've been seeing in the recent term may in fact still be transitory. We may see them work their way out at the end of 2022 And we're starting to see the early signs of that actually playing out.”
Jason
Jason rates w=0.86 · n=7 · E57 (2021-12-04) · sentiment · strength 1 ▶ 42:17 SUPPORT
“But competition does seem to drive prices lower. And so if we do see more people participating as employees or employment, well, then there'd be some competition for less competition for labor. And we might see more competition in other places in the economy.”
Friedberg
Friedberg rates w=0.79 · n=14 · E58 (2021-12-11) · sentiment · strength 1 ▶ 46:51 SUPPORT
“I want to remind you about the deflationary effect of technology, and it is really being felt in the economy.”
Chamath
Chamath rates w=0.88 · n=16 · E62 (2022-01-08) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 32:14 SUPPORT
“the volatility in the 10-year yield is slowing way down. And if that continues to hold, that means that people are really saying there's a small amount of real inflation, a reasonable amount of transitory inflation, and we're about to kind of wash most of it through the system with 100 basis points of rate hikes.”
Chamath
Chamath rates w=0.88 · n=16 · E64 (2022-01-22) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 46:54 SUPPORT
“the leading indicators all around the world tell us that their economies are weak, then inflation may have actually been much more transitory than we thought”
Chamath
Chamath rates w=0.88 · n=16 · E67 (2022-02-12) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 56:33 SUPPORT
“one of the most interesting things is the rate of change of this inflation was actually lower month over month. And so if you think about it that way, we had a bad CPI print, but it's actually not going up as much. And in fact, it's starting to trail off and a lot of economists now forecast basically this inflation peaking or already having peaked over the last few weeks.”
Chamath
Chamath rates w=0.88 · n=16 · E72 (2022-03-19) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 50:32 SUPPORT · horizon 9mo
“And what people realized was, okay, you know, inflation may actually start to get tamed in the back half of the year.”
Brad Gerstner
Brad Gerstner (regular guest ×1.0) rates: 2 resolved, unproven · E73 (2022-03-26) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 1:26:06 SUPPORT · horizon 3mo
“PMI in January came in at 0.2 versus the consensus estimate of 0.6. That means the producer level of inflation was meaningfully less than we expected. ... That's why I think there's also a probability by the middle of the summer, the Fed in the United States is saying we now see a balanced risk between growth and inflation.”
Chamath
Chamath rates w=0.88 · n=16 · E73 (2022-03-26) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 1:24:23 SUPPORT
“Now, here we are again. We're worried about this inflationary boogeyman. And the Chinese government basically extended these tax cuts, increased the tax cuts, and essentially said we're going to be very stimulative in the economy, especially through the back half of the year.”
Friedberg
Friedberg rates w=0.79 · n=14 · E74 (2022-04-01) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 19:52 OPPOSE
“One thing I'll say about inflation, let's say you're running a company and you raise your prices, you're not often going back and dropping your prices again. ... consumables, durables typically stay high after they inflate. You end up having this persisting effect and it's really hard to just grow your way out of that without stimulus.”
Sacks
Sacks rates w=1.08 · n=12 · E74 (2022-04-01) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 23:26 OPPOSE · horizon 24mo
“Technology does cause deflation. It's deflationary. But this is not going to help us get out of what's coming over the next year or two.”
Chamath
Chamath rates w=0.88 · n=16 · E74 (2022-04-01) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 20:52 SUPPORT
“And incrementally, especially if you use technology, those things tend to be deflationary, so they do get cheaper. ... So you have this deflationary, natural deflationary effect where you tend to save money on the things you used to pay for”
BR
Brian Armstrong (guest ×0.5) no rates track record · E77 (2022-04-23) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 48:15 OPPOSE
“because, frankly, you know, the dollar is seeing a lot of inflation. You guys have talked about it many times on this show. So do you really want to have a stable, quote, stable coin that is inflating 8% a year? ... they're basically looking at the consumer price index and they're trying to basically have flat purchasing power and assume that the dollar and various fiat currencies around the world are actually going to go through more inflation.”
Chamath
Chamath rates w=0.88 · n=16 · E80 (2022-05-13) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 7:17 REVERSAL
“Meanwhile, we're waiting for CPI to downtick inflation hasn't really done that.”
Sacks
Sacks rates w=1.08 · n=12 · E80 (2022-05-13) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 1:37:05 REVERSAL
“Larry Summers told him it would lead to inflation. Nobody, I know no one wants to listen to Larry Summers. He's like one of those guys you never want to admit is correct. But Larry Summers was correct.”
Brad Gerstner
Brad Gerstner (regular guest ×1.0) rates: 2 resolved, unproven · E81 (2022-05-23) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 7:22 SUPPORT · horizon 12mo
“You tell me, is the price of the used car this time next year higher than 29 or lower than 29? It's going to be lower because we're destroying demand by raising interest rates. ... That and consumer confidence tells me forward looking inflation is rolling.”

Who built this conviction

each voice's total force on the score — supports and opposes from every mention, weighted exactly as the replay applied them · share = % of all mention-driven movement

Chamath
Chamath w=0.88
10 scoring events · 43% of moves
+57.1 / -54.4 → net +2.7
Sacks
Sacks w=1.08
3 scoring events · 24% of moves
+37.9 / -26.0 → net +11.9
Friedberg
Friedberg w=0.79
4 scoring events · 15% of moves
+29.3 / -9.4 → net +19.8
Brad Gerstner
Brad Gerstner regular guest ×1.0
2 scoring events · 10% of moves
+27.3 → net +27.3
Jason
Jason w=0.86
1 scoring event · 5% of moves
+13.6 → net +13.6
BR
Brian Armstrong guest ×0.5
1 scoring event · 2% of moves
+0.0 / -6.0 → net -6.0

⏳ decay drained -50.6 over the idea's life — that's time passing, attributed to no one

Score events

episodekindΔafternote
E34 2021-05-31 init +37.9 37.9 E34 born by Sacks (explicit_prediction x2) [w=1.08]
E34 2021-05-31 reinforce +12.2 50.1 E34 Chamath support x2 (new voice) [w=0.88]
E35 2021-06-13 decay -2.0 48.1 E35 silent
E36 2021-06-18 decay -1.9 46.2 E36 silent
E37 2021-06-25 decay -1.8 44.4 E37 silent
E38 2021-07-03 decay -1.8 42.6 E38 silent
E39 2021-07-09 decay -1.7 40.9 E39 silent
E40 2021-07-16 reinforce +10.5 51.3 E40 Friedberg support x2 (new voice) [w=0.79]
E41 2021-07-23 decay -2.1 49.3 E41 silent
E42 2021-07-30 decay -2.0 47.3 E42 silent
E43 2021-08-06 decay -1.9 45.4 E43 silent
E44 2021-08-28 decay -1.8 43.6 E44 silent
E45 2021-09-04 decay -1.7 41.9 E45 silent
E46 2021-09-14 decay -1.7 40.2 E46 silent
E47 2021-09-18 decay -1.6 38.6 E47 silent
E49 2021-10-02 decay -1.5 37.0 E49 silent
E50 2021-10-09 decay -1.5 35.5 E50 silent
E51 2021-10-16 decay -1.4 34.1 E51 silent
E52 2021-10-23 decay -1.4 32.8 E52 silent
E53 2021-10-30 reversal -19.7 13.1 E53 Chamath flips
E54 2021-11-06 decay -0.5 12.6 E54 silent
E55 2021-11-13 oppose -12.6 0.0 E55 Chamath opposes x3 (marked reversal; no prior support to flip) [w=0.88]
E56 2021-11-20 decay · 0.0 E56 silent
E57 2021-12-04 reinforce +11.8 11.8 E57 Friedberg support x2 [w=0.79]
E57 2021-12-04 reinforce +13.6 25.4 E57 Jason support x1 (new voice) [w=0.86]
E58 2021-12-11 reinforce +7.0 32.4 E58 Friedberg support x1 [w=0.79]
E59 2021-12-17 decay -1.3 31.1 E59 silent
E60 2021-12-23 decay -1.2 29.9 E60 silent
E61 2021-12-29 decay -1.2 28.7 E61 silent
E62 2022-01-08 reinforce +9.4 38.1 E62 Chamath support x2 (flipped from reversal) [w=0.88]
E63 2022-01-15 decay -1.5 36.5 E63 silent
E64 2022-01-22 reinforce +8.3 44.9 E64 Chamath support x2 [w=0.88]
E65 2022-01-29 decay -1.8 43.1 E65 silent
E66 2022-02-05 decay -1.7 41.3 E66 silent
E67 2022-02-12 reinforce +7.7 49.0 E67 Chamath support x2 [w=0.88]
E68 2022-02-19 decay -2.0 47.1 E68 silent
E70 2022-02-24 decay -1.9 45.2 E70 silent
E71 2022-03-05 decay -1.8 43.4 E71 silent
E72 2022-03-19 reinforce +7.4 50.8 E72 Chamath support x2 [w=0.88]
E73 2022-03-26 reinforce +6.5 57.3 E73 Chamath support x2 [w=0.88]
E73 2022-03-26 reinforce +9.6 66.9 E73 Brad Gerstner support x2 (new voice)
E74 2022-04-01 oppose -9.4 57.5 E74 Friedberg opposes x2 [w=0.79]
E74 2022-04-01 reinforce +5.6 63.0 E74 Chamath support x2 [w=0.88]
E74 2022-04-01 oppose -13.0 50.0 E74 Sacks opposes x2 [w=1.08]
E75 2022-04-09 decay -2.0 48.0 E75 silent
E76 2022-04-16 decay -1.9 46.1 E76 silent
E77 2022-04-23 oppose -6.0 40.1 E77 Brian Armstrong opposes x2 [w=0.50]
E78 2022-04-30 decay -1.6 38.5 E78 silent
E79 2022-05-07 decay -1.5 37.0 E79 silent
E80 2022-05-13 reversal -22.2 14.8 E80 Chamath flips
E80 2022-05-13 oppose -13.0 1.8 E80 Sacks opposes x2 (marked reversal; no prior support to flip) [w=1.08]
E81 2022-05-23 reinforce +17.7 19.5 E81 Brad Gerstner support x3
E82 2022-05-24 decay -0.8 18.7 E82 silent