E39

E39: West coast super drought & climate crisis, Nuclear virtue signaling, chaos in SF & more

2021-07-09 spoken.md · speaker-labeled ▶ watch ← E38 all episodes E40 →

4
ideas born
7
ideas moved
15
captures · 4 voices
2
dissenting
+222.9
conviction added
-69.9
decay · 64 silent

Every number here is replayed from score_events — the same ledger the pool ranks on. Decay is what the 64 ideas nobody mentioned gave up this week; it applies only when an episode is processed.

Tier crossings

conviction thresholds crossed by this episode — 65 / 45 / 15 · ideas born here show where they landed. why 65 isn't always green

▲ +19.9 🌍 Delta is not the last one — more variants this fall, a tough winter watch green threshold 46.6 → 66.5 still dormant — green gate not met
▲ +55.0 📈 California / San Francisco governance decline drives an exodus born at watch 55.0
▲ +45.6 🛢️ Western water scarcity repriced water rights and infrastructure born at watch 45.6
▲ +42.3 ⚡ Distributed backup power boom — generators and rooftop solar born at ember 42.3
▲ +28.0 🛢️ Global drought turns self-sufficient countries into food importers born at ember 28.0
▲ +18.9 ⚡ Nuclear is the fastest path to carbon neutral — uranium is being cornered dormant ember -0.0 → 18.9

Who moved the board

each voice's force on conviction this episodesupports and opposes, weighted exactly as the replay applied them · share = % of this episode's movement

Jason
Jason
4 captures · 42% of movement · 2 ideas born
+103.0 → net +103.0
Chamath
Chamath
4 captures · 33% of movement · 2 ideas born
+79.9 → net +79.9
Sacks
Sacks
4 captures · 18% of movement
+31.7 / -11.2 → net +20.5
Friedberg
Friedberg
3 captures · 8% of movement
+19.4 → net +19.4

What got argued (7 ideas)

ordered by how hard each idea moved · quotes are verbatim from the transcript, timestamps deep-link into the episode

NEW HPP 📈 California / San Francisco governance decline drives an exodus closed 50 ▲ +55.0 0.0 → 55.0

Uncontrolled property crime and a non-prosecuting DA plus post-COVID commuter collapse push national retailers to close SF stores and residents/investors to leave the state — bearish California urban office and retail real estate. Jason announces he is personally relocating to Texas or Florida.

plays HPP ·primary CMF KRC evals 2022-07-09
Sacks
Sacks support ×3 sentiment ▶ 49:11
CVS, Walgreens and Target are all closing stores or reducing store hours because they understand the hit to their bottom line.
Jason
Jason support ×3 explicit_prediction 120mo horizon ▶ 58:29
my position right now is California is going to be on a decade long slide and I'm working for 10 more years. ... So why would I spend 10 years in a place that is on a debt spiral?
NEW PHO 🛢️ Western water scarcity repriced water rights and infrastructure closed 8 ▲ +45.6 0.0 → 45.6

A 500-year megadrought forces formal allocation cuts (Lake Mead tier-one shortage, Arizona losing ~600k acre-feet) and makes water rights, aquifer access, pipelines, desal and irrigation efficiency the scarce assets — even if political risk caps who is allowed to own them.

plays PHO ·primary CDZI CGW LNN evals 2022-07-09
Chamath
Chamath support ×3 explicit_prediction 6mo horizon ▶ 16:33
if the US Bureau of Reclamation measures Lake Mead under a certain threshold, they can declare a tier one shortage. And what that means, just practically speaking, cutting through all the, you know, jargon is that initially the state of Arizona will be denied around 600,000 acre feet of water next year. What does that mean? That's about 15% of the demand for that state. ... there is an enormous untapped groundwater aquifer in Southern California, which is the size of Lake Mead. It's an incredibly unique thing. It's actually owned by a public company.
Jason
Jason support ×1 positioning ▶ 19:01
If you look at just monitoring our water usage, I invested in two companies. One of them didn't work out, but both of them were to monitor water usage. ... And we lose 20, 30 percent of our water to leaks.
NEW GNRC ⚡ Distributed backup power boom — generators and rooftop solar closed 7 ▲ +42.3 0.0 → 42.3

Heat-wave AC demand, lost hydro and fire-driven outages push Californians (and the wider west) to buy their own power: home standby and portable generators, rooftop solar plus batteries.

plays GNRC ·primary ENPH RUN evals 2022-07-09
Jason
Jason support ×2 positioning ▶ 8:57
And we're going to put in a power generator, which I know not everybody is able to do. But you can buy a portable one for as little as 300 or 400 bucks, I think, now. So a portable generator in case you lose power, stock up on everything else.
Friedberg
Friedberg support ×2 explicit_prediction ▶ 9:11
I think there's going to be a big kind of power generator push, right? Distributed power has always been something. That's the whole point of solar. You get the solar on your roof. You get your own power.
NEW DBA 🛢️ Global drought turns self-sufficient countries into food importers closed 29 ▲ +28.0 0.0 → 28.0

Simultaneous drought across the US west, Brazil, the Mediterranean/southern Europe and large parts of Africa threatens food supply and flips currently self-sufficient countries into importers — bid under agricultural commodities and ag inputs.

plays DBA ·primary MOO WEAT evals 2022-07-09
Chamath
Chamath support ×2 explicit_prediction ▶ 11:14
No, Jason, even worse than this, we're in a position where we are threatening our own food supply. Just to put a finer point on this, it's not just the western half of the United States that's now suffering from this. It's Brazil, it's the Mediterranean and Southern Europe, and it's large parts of Africa. You add up all those number of people, there are many countries there that are actually self-sufficient, which will then no longer be, will have to import food.
JETS 🌍 Delta is not the last one — more variants this fall, a tough winter closed 0 CONTESTED ▲ +19.9 46.6 → 66.5
Chamath
Chamath support ×2 explicit_prediction 6mo horizon ▶ 1:03:36
I mean, I think that there's a very good chance that some politicians are going to try to use this for another shutdown in the fall.
Sacks
Sacks support ×2 sentiment ▶ 1:03:47
I think you're right and I think the teachers unions, the NEA and the AFT are already putting all sorts of demands on going back to school.
URA ⚡ Nuclear is the fastest path to carbon neutral — uranium is being cornered closed 36 CONTESTED ▲ +18.9 -0.0 → 18.9
Friedberg
Friedberg oppose ×2 sentiment ▶ 23:04
Great. That's a 20-year project and you got to build ... I'm not sure it solves our acute problems. It solves long-term problems associated with climate change and energy and security.
Chamath
Chamath support ×3 sentiment ▶ 26:11
And now you impose it on something like nuclear energy, which is consistently proven to provide an enormously abundant, cheap and clean form of sustainable energy. ... if we have small forms of sustainable, abundant energy that can be basically hyper localized and located where we can do these jobs, the jobs to be done, it's transformational.
Jason
Jason support ×2 sentiment ▶ 30:44
Do we want to deal with high energy prices and brownouts and all kinds of problems and rolling blackouts? Or do we want to put this issue behind us? If we just go on a Manhattan project literally to make new nuclear, we would be, this issue would be behind us and we could focus on something else like education.
Sacks
Sacks oppose ×2 sentiment ▶ 31:40
Mark Andreessen had a good term. He said we're living in a vetocracy, as in the word veto. ... And whether you want to call it NIMBYism or vetocracy, there are just too many people and groups who have the right to say no to anything and block anything important from happening.
PCG ⚡ Brutal 2021 western fire season plus grid brownouts closed 41 ▲ +13.4 48.6 → 62.0
Friedberg
Friedberg support ×3 explicit_prediction 6mo horizon ▶ 2:28
But what matters most is that the moisture conditions in our forest land is lower than we've ever seen at this time of year in history. ... So we're going to have more power demand, we have less power available, we have extremely dry forests. ... And so this is setting us up for a number of possible disasters this year.
Sacks
Sacks support ×2 explicit_prediction 3mo horizon ▶ 13:15
And so drought conditions have existed for a long time. Has climate change amplified that and made it worse? Yes. But this is entirely foreseeable. ... The problem for him is that fire season now starts in August. And so, we could be in the middle of fire season when this recall election happens.

Episode digest

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Drought episode, and it is the most instrument-dense one of the era so far — Friedberg opens with a receipt-heavy megadrought brief (a 2018-19 paper putting western North America in a 500-year megadrought, California snowpack at 0% statewide by June 1 for the first time ever, 120F+ in British Columbia, hydro generation down 70% vs 2019 against 11-15% of state electricity, forest-fuel moisture at record lows) and lands on the near-term forecast that this 'sets us up for a number of possible disasters this year', with the probability of West Coast forest catching fire 'very high' (6:53) and 150 AQI shutting down the 3M Californians who work outdoors. Sacks reinforces from the political side: not a black swan, entirely foreseeable, Newsom moved the recall to September precisely to front-run fire season but 'fire season now starts in August', and forest treatment is 11k acres against a claimed 90k. The tradeable new theses: (1) a bearish California utility/wildfire idea (PCG/EIX) off Friedberg's fire+grid setup; (2) Friedberg's clean forward call that 'there's going to be a big kind of power generator push' with distributed solar as the self-supply route, which Jason backs with actual household spend — six more air purifiers, N95s already ordered, and a generator going in (GNRC/ENPH/RUN); (3) Chamath's water-scarcity thesis, the strongest single capture in the episode: he flags the year-end US Bureau of Reclamation Lake Mead assessment, a tier-one shortage declaration and Arizona losing ~600k acre-feet (15% of state demand) next year, plus the untapped Southern California aquifer 'the size of Lake Mead' that is 'owned by a public company' (Cadiz) but stuck in a multi-decade political slog (PHO/CGW/CDZI/LNN); (4) Chamath's global food-supply extension — drought hitting Brazil, the Mediterranean and Africa flips self-sufficient countries into importers (DBA/WEAT/MOO). Two disclosed-money items: Chamath says at 12:02 he has 'been looking at water investing for a while' and his team found 'incredibly interesting opportunities' around owning water rights and selling them back to states — then kills it himself as 'politically intolerable' for someone like him, floating a foundation structure instead; and at 35:20 he predicts the flip side, that water rights get taken back by eminent domain in an emergency ('sorry, need it back. It's mine'), which Sacks endorses — a real bearish caveat on the water-rights owners inside the otherwise bullish water thesis, logged here rather than as a second mention since one mention per speaker per idea. Jason discloses two (private, one dead) water-monitoring investments. The nuclear segment is the 'virtue signaling' framing from the title: Chamath table-pounds nuclear on the merits — reactor-construction-by-country chart, Three Mile Island/Chernobyl as a two-crash overreaction ('if we stopped flying after two airline crashes'), France at 70% nuclear vs Germany unwinding post-Fukushima, and the hypocrisy of solar/wind advocates ignoring copper/nickel/cobalt tailings dumped in the ocean by Indonesia; Jason wants a Manhattan Project and nuclear-next-to-desal. Nobody names an instrument, and Chamath immediately hedges his own case at 31:08 — 'it will get bogged down in litigation and bureaucracy' — so the bullish nuclear idea is captured with URA as an honest-but-loose primary and the feasibility pushback logged as opposes: Friedberg's '20-year project, doesn't solve the acute problem' and Sacks' vetocracy/NIMBY point. The SF segment is mostly Chesa Boudin politics with two market hooks kept: Sacks on CVS, Walgreens and Target closing stores or cutting hours 'because they understand the hit to their bottom line', and Jason's 85%-of-commuters-gone stat, which roll into a bearish California-urban-real-estate idea (HPP/KRC/CMF) anchored on Jason's own on-record call at 58:29 that 'California is going to be on a decade long slide' plus his live announcement that he is moving to Texas or Florida. Sacks discloses another $50k donated to the Recall Chesa campaign (political, not a market position). COVID close: Israel's data cuts Pfizer efficacy vs Delta to 64% (93% vs hospitalization, down from 99%+), Sacks reports a double-vaxxed close contact testing positive, and Friedberg's market question prompts Chamath's captured call that there's 'a very good chance' politicians try another fall shutdown, which Sacks reinforces via NEA/AFT back-to-school demands — bearish reopening (JETS), even though both simultaneously argue no policy change is warranted and Chamath wants a 'moral decision that we are all getting back to life as normal'. Deliberately not captured: booster predictions (Friedberg 'There will be boosters for sure. Like this fall', Chamath 'probably need a booster... on a cocktail') — consensus news the day after Pfizer announced it would seek booster authorization, and a weak causal link to PFE/MRNA; Newsom recall handicapping with no instrument; Chamath's cynicism-and-IQ study; Friedberg's Tomorrowland anti-science-culture riff; and Jason's plug for private hydro-panel company Source (Zero Mass Water). Zero mentions attach to the 2021 registry: nothing here touches the open E1-E19 ideas, and covid-normalcy-summer-2021 closed 2021-06-19, so the fall-shutdown call is necessarily a new idea. Label notes: roster check clean (Jason 112 turns, Sacks 74, Chamath 44, Friedberg 37, all four named in the intro and all four self-consistent with their fingerprints — Friedberg does the science brief and Climate-Corp-style ag/water detail, Sacks does Yammer/Craft and SF politics, Chamath does the investing angle, Jason moderates). Two small merged-turn artifacts, neither affecting a capture: Friedberg's 23:25 turn ends with 'We can't do both?' which is Jason's line (he answers 'Let's do both' next), and Sacks' 31:40 turn opens with 'Please read a book' which is Chamath finishing his own 31:37 thought.