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look, I don't think so. Like, this has been the ongoing prediction starting with the SaaS apocalypse.

Sacks oppose ×2 ▼ on 🤖 The $3-4T software industrial complex contracts in 2026 E293 · 2026-10-17 ▶ 33:33

So again, people just tend to think in terms of these zero-sum games and who's going to be wiped out or eliminated.

Jason support ×3 ▼ on 🤖 The $3-4T software industrial complex contracts in 2026 E293 · 2026-10-17 ▶ 31:14

It feels to me like the deflationary nature of this software, AI, super intelligence, is unique and different than anything we've ever seen.

Chamath support ×1 ▼ on 🤖 The $3-4T software industrial complex contracts in 2026 E293 · 2026-10-17 ▶ 28:27

If you own a bunch of workflows that have been rented to people as SaaS, theoretically, open AI and Ant are a threat to that.

Jason support ×2 ▼ on 🤖 The $3-4T software industrial complex contracts in 2026 E292 · 2026-10-10 ▶ 1:26:39

I'm going to strongly agree with you and build on it. You have this abstraction of the software layer occurring at the same time, Friedberg, of the abstraction of the website or the marketplace, et cetera.

Chamath reversal ×2 ▲ on 📈 SaaSpocalypse is overdone for compliance-moat enterprise software E292 · 2026-10-10 ▶ 1:25:38

Benioff made Salesforce headless a few months earlier. When all of these things are headless and you can wrap them in agent tools and you can connect them via MCP to other experiences, the value of IP does no longer exist in software. It doesn't exist.

Chamath support ×3 ▼ on 🤖 The $3-4T software industrial complex contracts in 2026 E292 · 2026-10-10 ▶ 1:25:25

I think GTA 6 is about to come out and people will reconstruct this. Why is this important? I think that IP and software was effectively rendered worthless two days ago.

Jason support ×2 ▲ on 📈 SaaSpocalypse is overdone for compliance-moat enterprise software E289 · 2026-09-11 ▶ 1:17:51

They released Claude code. They released Claude design, and that really pissed off Cursor, who was one of the biggest customers that Anthropic had to date, and they felt they got rug pulled by Claude.

Sacks support ×3 ▲ on 📈 SaaSpocalypse is overdone for compliance-moat enterprise software E287 · 2026-08-29 ▶ 18:00

Well, this narrative of the Sass apocalypse was totally overdone. I mean, this whole Sass is dead narrative is just getting shredded today with Salesforce being up over 20 percent. You could go back and look at some of the clips I've been saying now for months. I do not believe that core systems of record like CRM are going to get ripped and replaced with something vibe-coded... Enterprises want certainty, they have compliance, they want professionally managed software that's been running and debugged for years.

Friedberg support ×2 ▲ on 📈 SaaSpocalypse is overdone for compliance-moat enterprise software E287 · 2026-08-29 ▶ 14:39

I think the horizontal platform companies, these tools that are horizontal, CRM works across many different verticals, industry verticals, and Gmail works across many industry verticals, and Slack, and so on, Excel. No one's going to go rebuild Excel... I think that's how I view the real SaaSpocalypse. It's more of a vertical SaaSpocalypse, which is software that's designed for just one vertical.

Chamath support ×3 ▲ on 📈 SaaSpocalypse is overdone for compliance-moat enterprise software E287 · 2026-08-29 ▶ 12:09

I don't know, it was pretty obvious to me in May that Salesforce specifically was meaningfully oversold... the large systems of record, what I said before and what I'll double down on now is that those guys hold an incredibly special place in the ecosystem if they do it right... that's why his net dollar retention is strong, that's why his revenue is strong, that's why he's guiding up and that's why the stocks ripped, I think was like a 43% since I said it had bottomed.

Chamath oppose ×2 ▼ on 🤖 The $3-4T software industrial complex contracts in 2026 E287 · 2026-08-29 ▶ 11:24

I think the high end of the market where Mark operates, where the large monoliths operate is quite safe. What people are finding is, hey, hold on a second, this is a lot harder than we thought... I think we're a little oversold. Now, I think this consolidation and the rerating can happen in the opposite direction. So what is the opposite trade? The opposite trade is, who has constructive net dollar retention, who has negative churn that's been really predictable... Those guys, I think, are positioned to crush.

Gavin Baker support ×2 ▲ on 📈 SaaSpocalypse is overdone for compliance-moat enterprise software E285 · 2026-08-14 ▶ 1:35:15

the return of a private equity bid for software really changes the investing landscape. ... the rise of open source and the increasing competitiveness of open source is a godsend for the American software industry. It is an absolute godsend.

Jason support ×1 ▲ on 📈 SaaSpocalypse is overdone for compliance-moat enterprise software E284 · 2026-08-08 ▶ 1:02:32

some of these SaaS companies with great founders who are in it for the long term and ... passionate user bases, I think they will make the jump to AI first products.

Sacks support ×2 ▲ on 📈 SaaSpocalypse is overdone for compliance-moat enterprise software E284 · 2026-08-08 ▶ 1:01:06

It's painting with too broad a brush to say that all of SaaS is going to get obliterated here... Nobody buys Microsoft because Microsoft writes the best code. They buy Microsoft because Microsoft is the rail that everything else runs on... The government is not going to rip and replace Salesforce. Not all SaaS is equal in this dimension.

Friedberg support ×2 ▼ on 🤖 The $3-4T software industrial complex contracts in 2026 E273 · 2026-05-15 ▶ 45:40

We've dropped all the vertical software, but we're doubling down our investment in horizontal tools... rather than try and buy an off-the-shelf app or workflow tool... there's this vertical horizontal shift, where they're trading the same right now, but... you could break that trade. I think there's probably a good arbitrage there.

Chamath oppose ×2 ▼ on 🤖 The $3-4T software industrial complex contracts in 2026 E273 · 2026-05-15 ▶ 36:01

the low end of the market is basically finished. ... the high end of the market where Mark operates, where the large monoliths operate is quite safe, ... I think we're a little oversold. And now I think this consolidation and the re-rating can happen in the opposite direction. ... who has constructive net dollar retention, who has negative churn ... Those guys I think are positioned to crush.

Marc Benioff oppose ×3 ▼ on 🤖 The $3-4T software industrial complex contracts in 2026 E273 · 2026-05-15 ▶ 32:59

the top 10 major enterprise software companies. They all had great quarters and they're all trading at two times sales. ... a hypnosis around AI and we haven't seen it show up in the numbers yet. ... we'll do over 46 billion this year, more than 16 billion in cash flow. ... I think it's one of the largest in history. Yeah. We want to buy back as much as we can.

Chamath support ×3 ▼ on 🤖 The $3-4T software industrial complex contracts in 2026 E270 · 2026-04-24 ▶ 29:54

The unit costs and the price to value of these products are out of whack ... if you cut everybody's cash flows off at year five or six or seven, ... you see the natural compression to between three and five times free cash flow. And that has nothing to do with business quality.

Sacks oppose ×2 ▼ on 🤖 The $3-4T software industrial complex contracts in 2026 E270 · 2026-04-24 ▶ 29:02

The pricing has never been more attractive if you're a private equity shop... companies doing a billion of ARR, with 20% growth rates, 80% gross margins, trading at three times ARR... [Salesforce at under 10x free cash flow] I think it might be a bargain, to be honest.

Friedberg support ×2 ▼ on 🤖 The $3-4T software industrial complex contracts in 2026 E270 · 2026-04-24 ▶ 23:02

agents have become so good and so fast and so cheap that many enterprises can simply spin up an alternative to a vertical SaaS solution. And that's crushing the sales team's ability to sell in. ... is the incredible deflation of how much it costs to successfully run a business. ... if that segment of the economy is levered,

Sacks oppose ×1 ▼ on 🤖 The $3-4T software industrial complex contracts in 2026 E268 · 2026-04-10 ▶ 1:04:36

The market is probably being a little too pessimistic with respect to at least some of these software companies... software is going to be a lot cheaper and easier to generate, but I'm not sure that was the competitive advantage of a lot of these companies. So there's probably a little bit of the baby being thrown out with the bathwater... there probably are some value buys in enterprise software.

Chamath support ×2 ▼ on 🤖 The $3-4T software industrial complex contracts in 2026 E267 · 2026-04-03 ▶ 29:55

As those three companies [SpaceX, OpenAI, Anthropic] come out... it will cannibalize and it will erode most of the moats that support this differential trading... the tech sector PE is going to shrink faster than the non-tech PE... the blue line will converge to the orange line and it's going to be nasty.

Chamath support ×2 ▼ on 🤖 The $3-4T software industrial complex contracts in 2026 E266 · 2026-03-27 ▶ 28:55

If super intelligence is coming, we have to be very careful about what we're willing to pay for these things... the canary in the coal mine are the SaaS stocks... Snowflake in 2023, it would have taken you almost a hundred years [of free cash flow]... it's been cut in half... they're re-rating everything down.

Jensen Huang oppose ×2 ▼ on 🤖 The $3-4T software industrial complex contracts in 2026 E265 · 2026-03-19 ▶ 29:46

Some people say that the enterprise IT software industry is going to get destroyed. Let me give you the alternative view. The enterprise software industry is limited by butts and seeds. It's about to get a hundred times more agents banging on those tools.