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🏛️ Broken cost-plus procurement forces a shift to new-entrant defense tech

US defense procurement is a consolidated, single-source, cost-plus oligopoly whose prices ratchet up every year (a $6,000 US artillery shell versus Russia's $600) while stockpiles run dry. In a multipolar world where China can out-produce the US, innovation is the only remaining American advantage, so contracts and capital rotate toward software/autonomy/drone-native suppliers rather than legacy primes.

0 CONVICTION
peaked 70.7 GREEN
EMBER
band
▲ LONG AVAV
expression · bullish politics-market
RIGHT
result · return +93.1% · vs SPY +57.0%
2024-10-13
born 2023-10-13 (E149) → window closed

other ideas on the same ticker, same direction: Palantir's premium is justified — the short loses 14 (PLTR)

⚖ Why this result

fully deterministic — computed from daily closes on the scoring date; nothing below is editable or hand-set

  1. Window: 2023-10-13 → 2024-10-13 — first mention + 12-month horizon, then the window locks.
  2. The call: ▲ LONG AVAV (primary play). AVAV rose 93.1% over the window → return (sign flipped for a SHORT) = +93.1% (the call made money).
  3. Benchmark: holding SPY over the same window returned +36.1% → vs SPY = +93.1 − (+36.1) = +57.0% — what this call made or lost against just owning the index. This is the number the result uses.
  4. Rule fired:
    ▶ RIGHT — return ≥ +10% AND beat SPY by 5+ ✓ (return 93.1, vs SPY 57.0)
    · HALF — return ≥ +5% OR beat SPY at all
    · WRONG — everything else
  5. Credit: supporters of a RIGHT earn 1.0 each, opposers the opposite — this feeds the scoreboard. supported: Chamath, Friedberg, Jason, Sacks

sub-ideas: Counter-drone defense becomes the new procurement line 24

Conviction timeline

bands: green ≥ 65 · watch ≥ 45 · ember ≥ 15

Plays vs SPY · % since first mention (2023-10-13)

Plays

expressionsymbolkindrelevancerationale
▲ LONG AVAVstock PRIMARY listed pure-play on the drone/quadcopter 'new class of warfare' Jason names
▲ LONG KTOSstock adjacent low-cost drones and hypersonic targets - the cheap-attritable end of procurement reform
▲ LONG PLTRstock adjacent listed proxy for software-defined defense displacing cost-plus systems integration

Mention log newest first

Chamath
Chamath politics-market 51% · n=95 · E192 (2024-08-16) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 1:30:01 SUPPORT
“We didn't have a set price. The government didn't come and say, you will build it for X and I'm only doing it one time. The free market was able to solve this problem, and it turned out the more capable solution was 40 percent cheaper than the one that they thought was going to work.”
Sacks
Sacks politics-market 48% · n=87 · E174 (2024-04-12) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 1:14:28 SUPPORT
“the defense industry is consolidated down to these five prime defense contractors who are basically in oligopoly. And we have this cost plus procurement system where they just raise their prices every year and the government pays it... the only way that's going to change is if the defense industry gets disrupted by a bunch of startups doing innovative things”
Chamath
Chamath politics-market 51% · n=95 · E174 (2024-04-12) · positioning · strength 3 ▶ 1:09:18 SUPPORT
“eight years ago, I came to this conclusion and I invested in this company called SailDrone, which is autonomous drones in the seas. Our customers include the US Navy”
Friedberg
Friedberg politics-market 42% · n=74 · E174 (2024-04-12) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 1:09:18 SUPPORT
“the investors in Silicon Valley that are making these investments are likely going to outperform those who are not”
Chamath
Chamath politics-market 51% · n=95 · E172 (2024-03-29) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 49:02 SUPPORT
“on the defense side, there's a large portion of that budget that's migrating away from traditional tactical warfare to things that are unmanned vehicles and cyber and whatnot, that could save two or $300 billion there”
Chamath
Chamath politics-market 51% · n=95 · E164 (2024-02-02) · positioning · strength 2 ▶ 1:28:28 OPPOSE
“we led the Series A in a company called SailDrone about seven years ago. ... it is incredibly hard for startups, no matter how innovative we've been to break through this logjam.”
Sacks
Sacks politics-market 48% · n=87 · E164 (2024-02-02) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 1:27:49 SUPPORT
“there's no question that we need to shake up the military industrial complex. We need to get a lot more startups in there. There's a lot of VCs now who are funding defense startups. ... this is going to be a huge area of innovation. And I think that because of the Ukraine war, the Pentagon must now realize the urgency of being able to mass produce effective drones, as well as create effective drone air defense.”
Jason
Jason politics-market 49% · n=61 · E164 (2024-02-02) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 1:22:32 SUPPORT
“There's no competition and they're charging cost plus. They're not innovating anymore. And they need competition, right? Just like SpaceX was massive competition for all of the governmental agencies around doing space travel.”
Jason
Jason politics-market 49% · n=61 · E158 (2023-12-23) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 35:32 SUPPORT
“you can really do incredible damage to very expensive airplanes with hypersonic missiles that go incredibly fast or like Mach 5 or something insane, and they're cheap. ... So $100 million or $20 million fighter jet can just be annihilated by a couple of $100,000 in hypersonic missiles.”
Sacks
Sacks politics-market 48% · n=87 · E158 (2023-12-23) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 33:25 SUPPORT
“the asymmetry of the warfare that the hoodies can launch a drone or a cheap missile that costs thousands of dollars and it costs us millions of dollars to shoot it down. ... That is just not sustainable for the US.”
Jason
Jason politics-market 49% · n=61 · E149 (2023-10-13) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 52:31 SUPPORT
“In Silicon Valley, we have now the funding of military startups, and there's a whole new class of warfare, supersonics, drones, quadcopters”
Sacks
Sacks politics-market 48% · n=87 · E149 (2023-10-13) · sentiment · strength 3 ▶ 47:09 SUPPORT
“But the thing that I think we agree with is that the US better bring more innovation into the military industrial complex and figure out, like, procurement, because our whole cost plus system right now is so broken. There was an article recently in The New York Times where it said that the cost of the United States of producing an artillery shell is $6,000. For Russia, it's $600.”

Who built this conviction

each voice's total push on the score, in conviction points across every mention — supports and opposes · share = % of all mention-driven movement

Sacks
Sacks 48%
4 scoring events · 36% of moves
+49.2 → net +49.2
Chamath
Chamath 51%
4 scoring events · 31% of moves
+29.4 / -12.0 → net +17.4
Jason
Jason 49%
3 scoring events · 25% of moves
+34.2 → net +34.2
Friedberg
Friedberg 42%
1 scoring event · 8% of moves
+10.4 → net +10.4

⏳ decay drained -77.4 over the idea's life — that's time passing, attributed to no one

Score events

episodekindΔafternote
E149 2023-10-13 init +24.0 24.0 E149 born by Sacks (sentiment x3)
E149 2023-10-13 reinforce +17.1 41.1 E149 Jason support x2 (new voice)
E150 2023-10-20 decay -1.6 39.5 E150 silent
E151 2023-10-27 decay -1.6 37.9 E151 silent
E152 2023-11-03 decay -1.5 36.4 E152 silent
E156 2023-12-08 decay -1.5 34.9 E156 silent
E157 2023-12-16 decay -1.4 33.5 E157 silent
E158 2023-12-23 reinforce +10.0 43.5 E158 Sacks support x2
E158 2023-12-23 reinforce +8.5 52.0 E158 Jason support x2
E159 2023-12-29 decay -2.1 49.9 E159 silent
E160 2024-01-06 decay -2.0 47.9 E160 silent
E161 2024-01-13 decay -1.9 46.0 E161 silent
E162 2024-01-19 decay -1.8 44.1 E162 silent
E163 2024-01-26 decay -1.8 42.4 E163 silent
E164 2024-02-02 reinforce +8.6 51.0 E164 Jason support x2
E164 2024-02-02 reinforce +8.8 59.8 E164 Sacks support x3
E164 2024-02-02 oppose -12.0 47.8 E164 Chamath opposes x2
E165 2024-02-09 decay -1.9 45.9 E165 silent
E166 2024-02-16 decay -1.8 44.1 E166 silent
E167 2024-02-23 decay -1.8 42.3 E167 silent
E168 2024-03-01 decay -1.7 40.6 E168 silent
E169 2024-03-08 decay -1.6 39.0 E169 silent
E170 2024-03-15 decay -1.6 37.4 E170 silent
E171 2024-03-22 decay -1.5 35.9 E171 silent
E172 2024-03-29 reinforce +9.6 45.6 E172 Chamath support x2 (flipped from oppose)
E173 2024-04-05 decay -1.8 43.7 E173 silent
E174 2024-04-12 reinforce +10.1 53.9 E174 Chamath support x3
E174 2024-04-12 reinforce +10.4 64.2 E174 Friedberg support x2 (new voice)
E174 2024-04-12 reinforce +6.4 70.7 E174 Sacks support x3
E175 2024-04-19 decay -2.8 67.8 E175 silent
E176 2024-04-26 decay -2.7 65.1 E176 silent
E177 2024-05-03 decay -2.6 62.5 E177 silent
E178 2024-05-10 decay -2.5 60.0 E178 silent
E179 2024-05-17 decay -2.4 57.6 E179 silent
E180 2024-05-24 decay -2.3 55.3 E180 silent
E181 2024-05-31 decay -2.2 53.1 E181 silent
E182 2024-06-07 decay -2.1 51.0 E182 silent
E183 2024-06-14 decay -2.0 48.9 E183 silent
E184 2024-06-20 decay -2.0 47.0 E184 silent
E185 2024-06-29 decay -1.9 45.1 E185 silent
E186 2024-07-04 decay -1.8 43.3 E186 silent
E187 2024-07-12 decay -1.7 41.6 E187 silent
E188 2024-07-19 decay -1.7 39.9 E188 silent
E189 2024-07-26 decay -1.6 38.3 E189 silent
E190 2024-08-02 decay -1.5 36.8 E190 silent
E191 2024-08-09 decay -1.5 35.3 E191 silent
E192 2024-08-16 reinforce +9.7 45.0 E192 Chamath support x2
E193 2024-08-23 decay -1.8 43.2 E193 silent
E194 2024-08-30 decay -1.7 41.5 E194 silent
E195 2024-09-06 decay -1.7 39.8 E195 silent
E196 2024-09-20 decay -1.6 38.2 E196 silent
E197 2024-09-27 decay -1.5 36.7 E197 silent
E198 2024-10-03 decay -1.5 35.2 E198 silent
E199 2024-10-11 decay -1.4 33.8 E199 silent