📈 Elon's brand backlash caps Tesla's EV share near 30-40%
Chamath's crack in his own Tesla bull case: a large and growing cohort of buyers is actively turned off by Elon and explicitly wants a non-Tesla EV, and absent a real monopoly no brand ever captures more than 30-40% of a market (his Coke/Pepsi frame). So the EV market fragments — Ford, GM and Rivian take the long tail, and he was surprised by Rivian's build quality when he drove one. Bearish Tesla's share, not its execution.
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CONVICTION
peaked 35.0 EMBER
DORMANT
band · contested
▼ SHORT TSLA
expression · bearish equities
HALF
result · return +24.3% · vs SPY -3.3%
2024-06-24
born 2023-06-24 (E134) → window closed
⚠ CONFLICTING IDEA ON THE SAME TICKER
— the board is arguing with itself; net it out (ticker view →)
other ideas on the same ticker, same direction: Blue cities ban or license-cap robotaxis 20 (TSLA)
⚖ Why this result
fully deterministic — computed from daily closes on the scoring date; nothing below is editable or hand-set
- Window: 2023-06-24 → 2024-06-24 — first mention + 12-month horizon, then the window locks.
- The call: ▼ SHORT TSLA (primary play). TSLA fell 24.3% over the window → return (sign flipped for a SHORT) = +24.3% (the call made money).
- Benchmark: holding SPY over the same window returned +27.6%
→ vs SPY = +24.3 − (+27.6) = -3.3%
— what this call made or lost against just owning the index. This is the number the result uses.
Direction-only read: +51.8% — did TSLA move the predicted way relative to the market. The two only differ on a SHORT: this call was right about direction relative to the index but still cost money versus holding it.
- Rule fired:
· RIGHT — return ≥ +10% AND beat SPY by 5+▶ HALF — return ≥ +5% OR beat SPY at all· WRONG — everything else
- Credit: supporters of a HALF earn 0.5 each, opposers the opposite — this feeds the scoreboard. supported: Chamath | opposed: Jason, Sacks | proxy-sensitive: F (long)→MISS (-7.5%); RIVN (long)→MISS (-18.1%)
Conviction timeline
bands: green ≥ 65 · watch ≥ 45 · ember ≥ 15
Plays vs SPY · % since first mention (2023-06-24)
Plays
| expression | symbol | kind | relevance | rationale |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| ▼ SHORT | TSLA | stock | PRIMARY | the share cap is the claim — brand backlash limits Tesla's addressable EV demand |
| ▲ LONG | F | stock | adjacent | named as the alternative buyers want; the F-150 Lightning is the stated channel |
| ▲ LONG | RIVN | stock | adjacent | Chamath drove one and was surprised by the quality — the long-tail beneficiary he cites |
Mention log newest first
Chamath
equities 42% · n=163
· E134 (2023-06-24) · explicit_prediction · strength 2
▶ 1:21:17
SUPPORT
“Look, we're friends with Elon, but we should acknowledge, there's a large number of people that are frankly a little bit turned off by him. And they've been very clear that they want an alternative to Tesla because they don't want to buy Tesla because they don't necessarily prefer him as a brand ambassador for their car. And the reality of life is that even if you're like maximally incredible, unless you find some clever way of creating a monopoly in which case you can be a douche or evil, you're only ever going to capture 30 plus 40 percent maybe of a market. Coke, Pepsi is a good example.”
Who built this conviction
each voice's total push on the score, in conviction points across every mention — supports and opposes · share = % of all mention-driven movement
⏳ decay drained -9.5 over the idea's life — that's time passing, attributed to no one
Score events
| episode | kind | Δ | after | note |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| E134 2023-06-24 | init | +35.0 | 35.0 | E134 born by Chamath (explicit_prediction x2) |
| E135 2023-07-01 | decay | -1.4 | 33.6 | E135 silent |
| E136 2023-07-09 | decay | -1.3 | 32.3 | E136 silent |
| E137 2023-07-14 | oppose | -12.0 | 20.3 | E137 Jason opposes x2 |
| E137 2023-07-14 | oppose | -12.0 | 8.3 | E137 Sacks opposes x2 |
| E139 2023-07-27 | decay | -0.3 | 7.9 | E139 silent |
| E140 2023-08-04 | decay | -0.3 | 7.6 | E140 silent |
| E141 2023-08-11 | decay | -0.3 | 7.3 | E141 silent |
| E142 2023-08-18 | decay | -0.3 | 7.0 | E142 silent |
| E143 2023-08-25 | decay | -0.3 | 6.7 | E143 silent |
| E144 2023-09-01 | decay | -0.3 | 6.5 | E144 silent |
| E146 2023-09-22 | decay | -0.3 | 6.2 | E146 silent |
| E147 2023-09-29 | decay | -0.2 | 6.0 | E147 silent |
| E148 2023-10-07 | decay | -0.2 | 5.7 | E148 silent |
| E149 2023-10-13 | decay | -0.2 | 5.5 | E149 silent |
| E150 2023-10-20 | decay | -0.2 | 5.3 | E150 silent |
| E151 2023-10-27 | decay | -0.2 | 5.1 | E151 silent |
| E152 2023-11-03 | decay | -0.2 | 4.9 | E152 silent |
| E156 2023-12-08 | decay | -0.2 | 4.7 | E156 silent |
| E157 2023-12-16 | decay | -0.2 | 4.5 | E157 silent |
| E158 2023-12-23 | decay | -0.2 | 4.3 | E158 silent |
| E159 2023-12-29 | decay | -0.2 | 4.1 | E159 silent |
| E160 2024-01-06 | decay | -0.2 | 4.0 | E160 silent |
| E161 2024-01-13 | decay | -0.2 | 3.8 | E161 silent |
| E162 2024-01-19 | decay | -0.2 | 3.6 | E162 silent |
| E163 2024-01-26 | decay | -0.1 | 3.5 | E163 silent |
| E164 2024-02-02 | decay | -0.1 | 3.4 | E164 silent |
| E165 2024-02-09 | decay | -0.1 | 3.2 | E165 silent |
| E166 2024-02-16 | decay | -0.1 | 3.1 | E166 silent |
| E167 2024-02-23 | decay | -0.1 | 3.0 | E167 silent |
| E168 2024-03-01 | decay | -0.1 | 2.9 | E168 silent |
| E169 2024-03-08 | decay | -0.1 | 2.7 | E169 silent |
| E170 2024-03-15 | decay | -0.1 | 2.6 | E170 silent |
| E171 2024-03-22 | decay | -0.1 | 2.5 | E171 silent |
| E172 2024-03-29 | decay | -0.1 | 2.4 | E172 silent |
| E173 2024-04-05 | decay | -0.1 | 2.3 | E173 silent |
| E174 2024-04-12 | decay | -0.1 | 2.2 | E174 silent |
| E175 2024-04-19 | decay | -0.1 | 2.1 | E175 silent |
| E176 2024-04-26 | decay | -0.1 | 2.1 | E176 silent |
| E177 2024-05-03 | decay | -0.1 | 2.0 | E177 silent |
| E178 2024-05-10 | decay | -0.1 | 1.9 | E178 silent |
| E179 2024-05-17 | decay | -0.1 | 1.8 | E179 silent |
| E180 2024-05-24 | decay | -0.1 | 1.8 | E180 silent |
| E181 2024-05-31 | decay | -0.1 | 1.7 | E181 silent |
| E182 2024-06-07 | decay | -0.1 | 1.6 | E182 silent |
| E183 2024-06-14 | decay | -0.1 | 1.5 | E183 silent |
| E184 2024-06-20 | decay | -0.1 | 1.5 | E184 silent |