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🤖 Growth multiples have another 10-20% to give back as the 10-year normalizes

Long rates normalizing toward pre-COVID levels re-rates long-duration growth assets downward; software/internet multiples already gave back 30-40% off the Oct-Nov 2020 peak and have another 10-20% to go, with the largest public growth managers deleveraging rather than adding.

0 CONVICTION
peaked 36.0 EMBER
EMBER
band
▼ SHORT IGV
expression · bearish tech
WRONG
result · return -6.2% · vs SPY -10.4%
2021-07-17
born 2021-04-17 (E29) → window closed
⚠ CONFLICTING IDEAS ON THE SAME TICKER — the board is arguing with itself; net it out (ticker view →)
ARKK · It's 1997-98, not 1999 — the melt-up has years left LONG GREEN 75.6 ← stronger than this idea (23.0)
IGV · SaaSpocalypse is overdone for compliance-moat enterprise software LONG EMBER 24.0 ← stronger than this idea (23.0)

other ideas on the same ticker, same direction: The $3-4T software industrial complex contracts in 2026 34 (IGV)

⚖ Why this result

fully deterministic — computed from daily closes on the scoring date; nothing below is editable or hand-set

  1. Window: 2021-04-17 → 2021-07-17 — first mention + 3-month horizon, then the window locks.
  2. The call: ▼ SHORT IGV (primary play). IGV rose 6.2% over the window → return (sign flipped for a SHORT) = -6.2% (the call lost money).
  3. Benchmark: holding SPY over the same window returned +4.2% → vs SPY = -6.2 − (+4.2) = -10.4% — what this call made or lost against just owning the index. This is the number the result uses.
    Direction-only read: -2.0% — did IGV move the predicted way relative to the market. The two only differ on a SHORT: this call was right about direction relative to the index but still cost money versus holding it.
  4. Rule fired:
    · RIGHT — return ≥ +10% AND beat SPY by 5+
    · HALF — return ≥ +5% OR beat SPY at all
    ▶ WRONG — everything else
  5. Credit: supporters of a WRONG earn 0 each, opposers the opposite — this feeds the scoreboard. supported: Brad Gerstner

Conviction timeline

bands: green ≥ 65 · watch ≥ 45 · ember ≥ 15

Plays vs SPY · % since first mention (2021-04-17)

Plays

expressionsymbolkindrelevancerationale
▼ SHORT IGVetf PRIMARY software multiples are the explicit subject of the compression call
▼ SHORT ARKKetf adjacent highest-duration growth basket, maximum sensitivity to the 10-year
▼ SHORT ZMstock adjacent named as the poster child of the outlier peak multiple that is not coming back on multiple alone

Mention log newest first

Brad Gerstner
Brad Gerstner (regular guest ×1.0) tech 71% · n=17 · E29 (2021-04-17) · positioning · strength 3 ▶ 18:28 SUPPORT · horizon 3mo
“You can believe the next three months that we're likely to have more multiple compression in the public markets, right? You could hedge your public book in a variety of ways against that, like we did and announced last December.”

Who built this conviction

each voice's total push on the score, in conviction points across every mention — supports and opposes · share = % of all mention-driven movement

Brad Gerstner
Brad Gerstner 71% regular guest ×1.0
1 scoring event · 100% of moves
+36.0 → net +36.0

⏳ decay drained -13.0 over the idea's life — that's time passing, attributed to no one

Score events

episodekindΔafternote
E29 2021-04-17 init +36.0 36.0 E29 born by Brad Gerstner (positioning x3)
E30 2021-04-23 decay -1.4 34.6 E30 silent
E31 2021-05-01 decay -1.4 33.2 E31 silent
E32 2021-05-13 decay -1.3 31.9 E32 silent
E33 2021-05-22 decay -1.3 30.6 E33 silent
E34 2021-05-31 decay -1.2 29.4 E34 silent
E35 2021-06-13 decay -1.2 28.2 E35 silent
E36 2021-06-18 decay -1.1 27.1 E36 silent
E37 2021-06-25 decay -1.1 26.0 E37 silent
E38 2021-07-03 decay -1.0 24.9 E38 silent
E39 2021-07-09 decay -1.0 23.9 E39 silent
E40 2021-07-16 decay -1.0 23.0 E40 silent