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📈 Legacy defense primes (Boeing, Lockheed, RTX) lose 2025

Defense budgets shift to tech-oriented, ROI-driven spend (Palantir/Anduril world); the clunky cost-plus primes — Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon — are deeply challenged in 2025.

0 CONVICTION
peaked 81.7 GREEN
EMBER
band
▼ SHORT BA
expression · bearish equities
WRONG
result · return -33.4% · vs SPY -49.5%
2026-01-04
born 2025-01-04 (E209) → window closed

⚖ Why this result

fully deterministic — computed from daily closes on the scoring date; nothing below is editable or hand-set

  1. Window: 2025-01-04 → 2026-01-04 — first mention + 12-month horizon, then the window locks.
  2. The call: ▼ SHORT BA (primary play). BA rose 33.4% over the window → return (sign flipped for a SHORT) = -33.4% (the call lost money).
  3. Benchmark: holding SPY over the same window returned +16.1% → vs SPY = -33.4 − (+16.1) = -49.5% — what this call made or lost against just owning the index. This is the number the result uses.
    Direction-only read: -17.3% — did BA move the predicted way relative to the market. The two only differ on a SHORT: this call was right about direction relative to the index but still cost money versus holding it.
  4. Rule fired:
    · RIGHT — return ≥ +10% AND beat SPY by 5+
    · HALF — return ≥ +5% OR beat SPY at all
    ▶ WRONG — everything else
  5. Credit: supporters of a WRONG earn 0 each, opposers the opposite — this feeds the scoreboard. supported: Chamath, Cyan Banister, Friedberg, Joe Lonsdale

Conviction timeline

bands: green ≥ 65 · watch ≥ 45 · ember ≥ 15

Plays vs SPY · % since first mention (2025-01-04)

Plays

expressionsymbolkindrelevancerationale
▼ SHORT BAstock PRIMARY first-named
▼ SHORT LMTstock adjacent named
▼ SHORT RTXstock adjacent named (Raytheon)

Mention log newest first

Cyan Banister
Cyan Banister (regular guest ×1.0) equities 50% · n=5 · E220 (2025-03-22) · sentiment · strength 2 ▶ 1:15:18 SUPPORT
“Well, obviously, Boeing is the big loser here. You've got to, it's interesting to me how bad they just fumbled this.”
Friedberg
Friedberg equities 43% · n=123 · E220 (2025-03-22) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 1:13:49 SUPPORT
“And so having spent far more on the Starliner program than on the Crew Dragon program, the Starliner program is gone now. It's basically done. And the Crew Dragon program has now done 16 crewed flights to space, 11 for NASA, four private commercial flights, and continues to perform.”
Joe Lonsdale
Joe Lonsdale (regular guest ×1.0) equities: 4 resolved, unproven · E218 (2025-03-08) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 34:07 SUPPORT
“We had a big contest four years ago, L3, Raytheon, Northrop. These guys, in and out of government for decades, they've gotten tens of billions of dollars to the same technology area. When we went head to head with them, we didn't just beat them by a little bit. We shot down the hardened drones nine and a half times farther away. Same size, same power, nine and a half times. Completely wiped the floor.”
Friedberg
Friedberg equities 43% · n=123 · E216 (2025-02-21) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 38:07 SUPPORT
“We've seen it in the Ukraine-Russia context that a $10,000 drone can destroy a $10 million piece of equipment and China now has drone factories that can output millions of drones each month... do we really need aircraft carriers? Do we really need tanks?”
Chamath
Chamath equities 42% · n=163 · E216 (2025-02-21) · explicit_prediction · strength 3 ▶ 35:23 SUPPORT
“you can't be spending three or four billion dollars a boat and taking eight, nine, 10 years to build these things. This is not sustainable... What you have instead are system integrators with extremely deep connectivity that are able to contract well, not necessarily to invent well.”
Naval Ravikant
Naval Ravikant (guest ×0.5) no equities track record · E215 (2025-02-15) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 1:18:39 SUPPORT
“If you look at it today, probably the largest defense contractor in the world is DJI. They got all the drones. ... If we have a kinetic conflict right now and we don't have good drone supply chain internally in the US, we're probably going to lose because those things are autonomous bullets. That's the future of all warfare. We're buying F-35s and the Chinese are building swarms of narrowzones.”
Chamath
Chamath equities 42% · n=163 · E215 (2025-02-15) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 37:54 SUPPORT
“So on Thursday, what happened with Microsoft, they had a $24 billion contract with the United States Army to deliver some whiz-bang thing. And they realized that they couldn't deliver it. And so what did they do? They went to Anderil. Now, why did they go to Anderil? Because Anderil has the technological supremacy to actually execute.”
Friedberg
Friedberg equities 43% · n=123 · E209 (2025-01-04) · annual_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 41:27 SUPPORT · horizon 12mo
“I went with the old defense and aerospace providers — Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon... defense budgets are going to shift towards a more tech-oriented and ROI-driven rationalization... this government contracting business is going to be deeply challenged this year.”

Who built this conviction

each voice's total push on the score, in conviction points across every mention — supports and opposes · share = % of all mention-driven movement

Friedberg
Friedberg 43%
3 scoring events · 54% of moves
+51.0 → net +51.0
Chamath
Chamath 42%
2 scoring events · 25% of moves
+23.5 → net +23.5
Joe Lonsdale
Joe Lonsdale regular guest ×1.0
1 scoring event · 10% of moves
+9.2 → net +9.2
Naval Ravikant
Naval Ravikant guest ×0.5
1 scoring event · 6% of moves
+5.9 → net +5.9
Cyan Banister
Cyan Banister 50% regular guest ×1.0
1 scoring event · 6% of moves
+5.3 → net +5.3

⏳ decay drained -75.3 over the idea's life — that's time passing, attributed to no one

Score events

episodekindΔafternote
E209 2025-01-04 init +40.0 40.0 E209 born by Friedberg (annual_prediction x2)
E210 2025-01-11 decay -1.6 38.4 E210 silent
E211 2025-01-18 decay -1.5 36.9 E211 silent
E212 2025-01-25 decay -1.5 35.4 E212 silent
E213 2025-01-31 decay -1.4 34.0 E213 silent
E214 2025-02-07 decay -1.4 32.6 E214 silent
E215 2025-02-15 reinforce +15.2 47.8 E215 Chamath support x2 (new voice)
E215 2025-02-15 reinforce +5.9 53.7 E215 Naval Ravikant support x2 (new voice) [w=0.50]
E216 2025-02-21 reinforce +8.3 62.0 E216 Chamath support x3
E216 2025-02-21 reinforce +6.8 68.8 E216 Friedberg support x3
E217 2025-03-01 decay -2.8 66.1 E217 silent
E218 2025-03-08 reinforce +9.2 75.2 E218 Joe Lonsdale support x3 (new voice)
E219 2025-03-15 decay -3.0 72.2 E219 silent
E220 2025-03-22 reinforce +4.2 76.4 E220 Friedberg support x2
E220 2025-03-22 reinforce +5.3 81.7 E220 Cyan Banister support x2 (new voice)
E221 2025-03-29 decay -3.3 78.4 E221 silent
E222 2025-04-05 decay -3.1 75.3 E222 silent
E223 2025-04-11 decay -3.0 72.3 E223 silent
E224 2025-04-19 decay -2.9 69.4 E224 silent
E225 2025-04-26 decay -2.8 66.6 E225 silent
E226 2025-05-02 decay -2.7 64.0 E226 silent
E227 2025-05-09 decay -2.6 61.4 E227 silent
E228 2025-05-17 decay -2.5 58.9 E228 silent
E229 2025-05-24 decay -2.4 56.6 E229 silent
E231 2025-06-13 decay -2.3 54.3 E231 silent
E232 2025-06-21 decay -2.2 52.1 E232 silent
E233 2025-06-28 decay -2.1 50.1 E233 silent
E234 2025-07-04 decay -2.0 48.1 E234 silent
E235 2025-07-11 decay -1.9 46.1 E235 silent
E236 2025-07-19 decay -1.8 44.3 E236 silent
E237 2025-08-01 decay -1.8 42.5 E237 silent
E238 2025-08-09 decay -1.7 40.8 E238 silent
E239 2025-08-15 decay -1.6 39.2 E239 silent
E240 2025-08-22 decay -1.6 37.6 E240 silent
E241 2025-08-29 decay -1.5 36.1 E241 silent
E242 2025-09-07 decay -1.4 34.7 E242 silent
E243 2025-09-19 decay -1.4 33.3 E243 silent
E244 2025-09-27 decay -1.3 32.0 E244 silent
E245 2025-10-03 decay -1.3 30.7 E245 silent
E246 2025-10-10 decay -1.2 29.4 E246 silent
E247 2025-10-17 decay -1.2 28.3 E247 silent
E248 2025-10-24 decay -1.1 27.1 E248 silent
E249 2025-10-31 decay -1.1 26.1 E249 silent
E250 2025-11-07 decay -1.0 25.0 E250 silent
E251 2025-11-14 decay -1.0 24.0 E251 silent
E252 2025-11-22 decay -1.0 23.0 E252 silent
E253 2025-12-06 decay -0.9 22.1 E253 silent
E254 2025-12-13 decay -0.9 21.2 E254 silent
E255 2025-12-19 decay -0.8 20.4 E255 silent
E256 2025-12-31 decay -0.8 19.6 E256 silent