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📈 Adobe takes the AI valuation retrade before Figma does

Chamath's stated expression on the Figma IPO is a spread: long Figma against a short of equivalent size in Adobe, because if foundation models absorb design software, the legacy incumbent gets its multiple cut first and further. The tradeable leg for a public-markets participant is the short in Adobe.

0 CONVICTION
peaked 29.3 EMBER
DORMANT
band
▼ SHORT ADBE
expression · bearish equities
HIT
outcome · R +41.7% · α +20.4%
2026-07-04
window closed

⚖ Why this verdict

fully deterministic — evaluate.py replays this from daily closes; nothing below is editable or hand-set

  1. Window: 2025-07-04 → 2026-07-04 — first mention + 12-month horizon, then the window locks.
  2. The call: ▼ SHORT ADBE (primary play). ADBE fell 41.7% over the window → direction-adjusted R = +41.7% (the call made money).
  3. Benchmark: holding SPY over the same window returned +21.3%α = +41.7 − (+21.3) = +20.4% — what this call made or lost against just owning the index. This is the number the verdict uses.
    Stock-selection read: +63.0% — did ADBE move the predicted way relative to the market. The two only differ on a SHORT: this call was right about direction relative to the index but still cost money versus holding it.
  4. Rule fired:
    ▶ HIT — R ≥ +10% AND α ≥ +5 ✓ (R 41.7, α 20.4)
    · PARTIAL — R ≥ +5% OR α ≥ 0
    · MISS — everything else
  5. Credit: supporters of a HIT earn 1.0 each, opposers the inverse — this feeds the scoreboard weights. supported: Chamath

Conviction timeline

bands: green ≥ 65 · watch ≥ 45 · ember ≥ 15

Plays vs SPY · % since first mention (2025-07-04)

Plays

expressionsymbolkindrelevancerationale
▼ SHORT ADBEstock PRIMARY the short leg of the spread — named as the name that retrades on valuation faster than Figma

Mention log

Chamath
Chamath equities w=0.84 · n=160 · E234 (2025-07-04) · explicit_prediction · strength 2 ▶ 1:16:29 SUPPORT
“The free money I think trade, instead of having to bet up or down Jason on AI, I would, if I could get like 50 or 100 million dollars of Figma, I would probably be long it and I would short an equivalent quantum of Adobe, and I would just book the spread. And I think you make a ton of money that way. That's a safer trade because even if the AI model thing comes around the corner, we don't see it. The person who's going to take a retrade on valuation faster than Figma will be Adobe.”

Who built this conviction

each voice's total force on the score — supports and opposes from every mention, weighted exactly as the replay applied them · share = % of all mention-driven movement

Chamath
Chamath w=0.84
1 scoring event · 100% of moves
+29.3 → net +29.3

⏳ decay drained -24.6 over the idea's life — that's time passing, attributed to no one

Score events

episodekindΔafternote
E234 2025-07-04 init +29.3 29.3 E234 born by Chamath (explicit_prediction x2) [w=0.84]
E235 2025-07-11 decay -1.2 28.1 E235 silent
E236 2025-07-19 decay -1.1 27.0 E236 silent
E237 2025-08-01 decay -1.1 25.9 E237 silent
E238 2025-08-09 decay -1.0 24.9 E238 silent
E239 2025-08-15 decay -1.0 23.9 E239 silent
E240 2025-08-22 decay -1.0 22.9 E240 silent
E241 2025-08-29 decay -0.9 22.0 E241 silent
E242 2025-09-07 decay -0.9 21.1 E242 silent
E243 2025-09-19 decay -0.8 20.3 E243 silent
E244 2025-09-27 decay -0.8 19.5 E244 silent
E245 2025-10-03 decay -0.8 18.7 E245 silent
E246 2025-10-10 decay -0.7 18.0 E246 silent
E247 2025-10-17 decay -0.7 17.2 E247 silent
E248 2025-10-24 decay -0.7 16.6 E248 silent
E249 2025-10-31 decay -0.7 15.9 E249 silent
E250 2025-11-07 decay -0.6 15.3 E250 silent
E251 2025-11-14 decay -0.6 14.6 E251 silent
E252 2025-11-22 decay -0.6 14.1 E252 silent
E253 2025-12-06 decay -0.6 13.5 E253 silent
E254 2025-12-13 decay -0.5 13.0 E254 silent
E255 2025-12-19 decay -0.5 12.4 E255 silent
E256 2025-12-31 decay -0.5 11.9 E256 silent
E257 2026-01-10 decay -0.5 11.5 E257 silent
E258 2026-01-17 decay -0.5 11.0 E258 silent
E259 2026-01-30 decay -0.4 10.6 E259 silent
E260 2026-02-07 decay -0.4 10.1 E260 silent
E261 2026-02-13 decay -0.4 9.7 E261 silent
E262 2026-02-28 decay -0.4 9.3 E262 silent
E263 2026-03-06 decay -0.4 9.0 E263 silent
E264 2026-03-13 decay -0.4 8.6 E264 silent
E265 2026-03-19 decay -0.3 8.3 E265 silent
E266 2026-03-27 decay -0.3 7.9 E266 silent
E267 2026-04-03 decay -0.3 7.6 E267 silent
E268 2026-04-10 decay -0.3 7.3 E268 silent
E269 2026-04-17 decay -0.3 7.0 E269 silent
E270 2026-04-24 decay -0.3 6.7 E270 silent
E271 2026-05-01 decay -0.3 6.5 E271 silent
E272 2026-05-08 decay -0.3 6.2 E272 silent
E273 2026-05-15 decay -0.2 6.0 E273 silent
E274 2026-05-22 decay -0.2 5.7 E274 silent
E275 2026-05-29 decay -0.2 5.5 E275 silent
E276 2026-06-13 decay -0.2 5.3 E276 silent
E277 2026-06-19 decay -0.2 5.1 E277 silent
E278 2026-06-26 decay -0.2 4.9 E278 silent
E279 2026-07-03 decay -0.2 4.7 E279 silent