📈 Adobe takes the AI valuation retrade before Figma does
Chamath's stated expression on the Figma IPO is a spread: long Figma against a short of equivalent size in Adobe, because if foundation models absorb design software, the legacy incumbent gets its multiple cut first and further. The tradeable leg for a public-markets participant is the short in Adobe.
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CONVICTION
peaked 29.3 EMBER
DORMANT
band
▼ SHORT ADBE
expression · bearish equities
HIT
outcome · R +41.7% · α +20.4%
2026-07-04
window closed
⚖ Why this verdict
fully deterministic — evaluate.py replays this from daily closes; nothing below is editable or hand-set
- Window: 2025-07-04 → 2026-07-04 — first mention + 12-month horizon, then the window locks.
- The call: ▼ SHORT ADBE (primary play). ADBE fell 41.7% over the window → direction-adjusted R = +41.7% (the call made money).
- Benchmark: holding SPY over the same window returned +21.3%
→ α = +41.7 − (+21.3) = +20.4%
— what this call made or lost against just owning the index. This is the number the verdict uses.
Stock-selection read: +63.0% — did ADBE move the predicted way relative to the market. The two only differ on a SHORT: this call was right about direction relative to the index but still cost money versus holding it.
- Rule fired:
▶ HIT — R ≥ +10% AND α ≥ +5 ✓ (R 41.7, α 20.4)· PARTIAL — R ≥ +5% OR α ≥ 0· MISS — everything else
- Credit: supporters of a HIT earn 1.0 each, opposers the inverse — this feeds the scoreboard weights. supported: Chamath
Conviction timeline
bands: green ≥ 65 · watch ≥ 45 · ember ≥ 15
Plays vs SPY · % since first mention (2025-07-04)
Plays
| expression | symbol | kind | relevance | rationale |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| ▼ SHORT | ADBE | stock | PRIMARY | the short leg of the spread — named as the name that retrades on valuation faster than Figma |
Mention log
Chamath
equities w=0.84 · n=160
· E234 (2025-07-04) · explicit_prediction · strength 2
▶ 1:16:29
SUPPORT
“The free money I think trade, instead of having to bet up or down Jason on AI, I would, if I could get like 50 or 100 million dollars of Figma, I would probably be long it and I would short an equivalent quantum of Adobe, and I would just book the spread. And I think you make a ton of money that way. That's a safer trade because even if the AI model thing comes around the corner, we don't see it. The person who's going to take a retrade on valuation faster than Figma will be Adobe.”
Who built this conviction
each voice's total force on the score — supports and opposes from every mention, weighted exactly as the replay applied them · share = % of all mention-driven movement
⏳ decay drained -24.6 over the idea's life — that's time passing, attributed to no one
Score events
| episode | kind | Δ | after | note |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| E234 2025-07-04 | init | +29.3 | 29.3 | E234 born by Chamath (explicit_prediction x2) [w=0.84] |
| E235 2025-07-11 | decay | -1.2 | 28.1 | E235 silent |
| E236 2025-07-19 | decay | -1.1 | 27.0 | E236 silent |
| E237 2025-08-01 | decay | -1.1 | 25.9 | E237 silent |
| E238 2025-08-09 | decay | -1.0 | 24.9 | E238 silent |
| E239 2025-08-15 | decay | -1.0 | 23.9 | E239 silent |
| E240 2025-08-22 | decay | -1.0 | 22.9 | E240 silent |
| E241 2025-08-29 | decay | -0.9 | 22.0 | E241 silent |
| E242 2025-09-07 | decay | -0.9 | 21.1 | E242 silent |
| E243 2025-09-19 | decay | -0.8 | 20.3 | E243 silent |
| E244 2025-09-27 | decay | -0.8 | 19.5 | E244 silent |
| E245 2025-10-03 | decay | -0.8 | 18.7 | E245 silent |
| E246 2025-10-10 | decay | -0.7 | 18.0 | E246 silent |
| E247 2025-10-17 | decay | -0.7 | 17.2 | E247 silent |
| E248 2025-10-24 | decay | -0.7 | 16.6 | E248 silent |
| E249 2025-10-31 | decay | -0.7 | 15.9 | E249 silent |
| E250 2025-11-07 | decay | -0.6 | 15.3 | E250 silent |
| E251 2025-11-14 | decay | -0.6 | 14.6 | E251 silent |
| E252 2025-11-22 | decay | -0.6 | 14.1 | E252 silent |
| E253 2025-12-06 | decay | -0.6 | 13.5 | E253 silent |
| E254 2025-12-13 | decay | -0.5 | 13.0 | E254 silent |
| E255 2025-12-19 | decay | -0.5 | 12.4 | E255 silent |
| E256 2025-12-31 | decay | -0.5 | 11.9 | E256 silent |
| E257 2026-01-10 | decay | -0.5 | 11.5 | E257 silent |
| E258 2026-01-17 | decay | -0.5 | 11.0 | E258 silent |
| E259 2026-01-30 | decay | -0.4 | 10.6 | E259 silent |
| E260 2026-02-07 | decay | -0.4 | 10.1 | E260 silent |
| E261 2026-02-13 | decay | -0.4 | 9.7 | E261 silent |
| E262 2026-02-28 | decay | -0.4 | 9.3 | E262 silent |
| E263 2026-03-06 | decay | -0.4 | 9.0 | E263 silent |
| E264 2026-03-13 | decay | -0.4 | 8.6 | E264 silent |
| E265 2026-03-19 | decay | -0.3 | 8.3 | E265 silent |
| E266 2026-03-27 | decay | -0.3 | 7.9 | E266 silent |
| E267 2026-04-03 | decay | -0.3 | 7.6 | E267 silent |
| E268 2026-04-10 | decay | -0.3 | 7.3 | E268 silent |
| E269 2026-04-17 | decay | -0.3 | 7.0 | E269 silent |
| E270 2026-04-24 | decay | -0.3 | 6.7 | E270 silent |
| E271 2026-05-01 | decay | -0.3 | 6.5 | E271 silent |
| E272 2026-05-08 | decay | -0.3 | 6.2 | E272 silent |
| E273 2026-05-15 | decay | -0.2 | 6.0 | E273 silent |
| E274 2026-05-22 | decay | -0.2 | 5.7 | E274 silent |
| E275 2026-05-29 | decay | -0.2 | 5.5 | E275 silent |
| E276 2026-06-13 | decay | -0.2 | 5.3 | E276 silent |
| E277 2026-06-19 | decay | -0.2 | 5.1 | E277 silent |
| E278 2026-06-26 | decay | -0.2 | 4.9 | E278 silent |
| E279 2026-07-03 | decay | -0.2 | 4.7 | E279 silent |